Being the only non-white person on your medicine course

Not to sound harsh, I understand your opinion and everything, but does it really matter? The people are going to be the same inside no matter what colour they are.

I'm sorry if this sounds rude (I really don't mean to sound offensive) but it annoys me that if this was about being the only white person on a course there would be an uproar.

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Renal

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scaryhair

I'm sorry if this sounds rude (I really don't mean to sound offensive) but it annoys me that if this was about being the only white person on a course there would be an uproar.

There was a girl here who was essentially bullied off a dentistry course because of the colour of her skin... :rolleyes:

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Renal

There was a girl here who was essentially bullied off a dentistry course because of the colour of her skin... :rolleyes:

Yeah, and things like that shouldn't be happening in Universities today...especially something like Dentistry or Medicine.

At the end of the day, we're all the same inside aren't we, so what difference does it make? Just think about when you get a job as a Doctor - you're not going to be able to afford to refuse it just because there isn't enough white/black/asian/green with yellow stripes people working there.

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#1_Wasteman

Fluffy

My advice would be to definitely drop the "I'm a graduate/mature student, so my opinion is more valid/more informed than yours" too - it gives us all a bad name...

tami's post did not at all demonstrate the attitude you're supposing. Why don't you get off that pedestal and shut up? And she's giving you a bad name? Far from it! Self righteous, pompous idiots like yourself and Renal are managing to do that all by yourselves.

tami you've been nothing but an objective minded help in this thread, ignore the rest of these arrogant tossers.

Renal

"I want to go to a med school that doesn't have too many darkies."

RACEEST!

scaryhair

I'm sorry if this sounds rude (I really don't mean to sound offensive) but it annoys me that if this was about being the only white person on a course there would be an uproar.

Ahh, and how exactly are you so sure of that? Uproar? I beg to differ. It's becoming increasingly obvious that you (along with many, many others) are just annoyed because you can't stand the fact that some people would rather be with their own, as well as other ethnic groups rather than being the odd one out at a predominantly white school.
Cut the reverse racism crap, it's becoming tiresome.

Renal

There was a girl here who was essentially bullied off a dentistry course because of the colour of her skin... :rolleyes:

Because white people are never racist, are they? :rolleyes:

Just those damn ethnics...

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bindymackenzie

#1_Wasteman

tami's post did not at all demonstrate the attitude you're supposing. Why don't you get off that pedestal and shut up? And she's giving you a bad name? Far from it! Self righteous, pompous idiots like yourself and Renal are managing to do that all by yourselves.

tami you've been nothing but an objective minded help in this thread, ignore the rest of these arrogant tossers.

RACEEST! :wink:

Ahh, and how exactly are you so sure of that? Uproar? I beg to differ. It's becoming increasingly obvious that you (along with many, many others) are just annoyed because you can't stand the fact that some people would rather be with their own, as well as other ethnic groups rather than being the odd one out at a predominantly white school.
Cut the reverse racism crap, it's becoming tiresome.

Because white people are never racist, are they? :rolleyes:

Just those damn ethnics...

i completely agree with your whole post! :tsr2:

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Renal

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#1_Wasteman

RACEEST!

Because white people are never racist, are they? :rolleyes:

Just those damn ethnics...
Baby jesus wept. If you cannot see the dichotomy...

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arpeggio

(The following isn't meant to be racist in any way :s-smilie:

):
If I'm honest, I'd probably feel a bit alone/outside/whatever if I went to uni and was the only white person on my course. I guess it's the same when it's the other way round? I'm not saying we should only stick to our own cultures, just that I understand why it's a consideration when choosing where to apply. And yes I know we're all the same on the inside, but surely race is just like gender, or age? If I were applying as a mature student, I might want to apply to unis with lots of other mature students so I'd be with like-minded people. It's a similar situation here.

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there is a large emphasis on gender in our culture. however, there's no way i would ever even look up a male:female ratios before i applied anywhere, for any course. i'd go where i wanted. i don't see why the colour of your skin should change anything. i think it's good to have variety, i'm not argueing about that, but i don't think selecting a university based on preconceptions about how diverse it might be is a very sensible attitude.

Reply 89

arpeggio

bright star

there is a large emphasis on gender in our culture. however, there's no way i would ever even look up a male:female ratios before i applied anywhere, for any course. i'd go where i wanted.

Well no, me neither, I was just using gender as an example of a what if situation (how would you feel if you were the only girl on your course? OK so I don't think I'd be complaining that much :p:

but there'd be times when it'd be nice to have some girls around as well. I don't see how this is so different.)

bright star

i don't see why the colour of your skin should change anything. i think it's good to have variety, i'm not argueing about that, but i don't think selecting a university based on preconceptions about how diverse it might be is a very sensible attitude

Not purely based on that, no, but all I'm saying is that it's understandable why it's a factor for some people.

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icapturethecastle

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why should race matter so much? especially for a course in med and dentistry where u take care of people no matter what race/religion/culture they are

i mean ok, say u go to whatever uni with the ethnic ratio you want right, when u come out with ur mbbs or whatever ur not going to be able to say i want to treat only patients of X race...

Reply 91

oh, here's all this stuff about perceived stigma, and enacted stigma actually relevant.... really should have paid more attention in my igs..... basically if i were the only girl, i might feel self-conscious about it. but the only real problem would be with my attitude towards it. i doubt it'd be an actual problem. similarly, if you were the only person of your race on your course, you might feel a bit self-conscious but i doubt it'd be an actual issue for anyone else. plus gender is totally different to race as an example. your gender is such a huge part of who you are, whereas your race is skin deep. your culture, well that's an entirely different thing :wink:

Reply 92

arpeggio

bright star

oh, here's all this stuff about perceived stigma, and enacted stigma actually relevant.... really should have paid more attention in my igs..... basically if i were the only girl, i might feel self-conscious about it. but the only real problem would be with my attitude towards it. i doubt it'd be an actual problem. similarly, if you were the only person of your race on your course, you might feel a bit self-conscious but i doubt it'd be an actual issue for anyone else. plus gender is totally different to race as an example. your gender is such a huge part of who you are, whereas your race is skin deep. your culture, well that's an entirely different thing :wink:

Given the choice, you'd probably rather go somewhere where you didn't feel self-conscious about your race?

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but it'd go away.....

Reply 94

#1_Wasteman

Because white people are never racist, are they? :rolleyes:

Just those damn ethnics...

No, actually, quite the opposite. I can assure you there would be an uproar if someone posted a thread saying that they didn't want to be with too many people from ethnic minorities.
It seems that only white people can be racist - if a person called a black person a word rhyming with tigger, you'd be looked down on by all of society, but if a black person called a white person whiteboy, or white trash then there would be nothing.

And to be honest - wanting to be with your own ethnic group? You're in England remember. Its a majority-white country.

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bright star

oh, here's all this stuff about perceived stigma, and enacted stigma actually relevant.... really should have paid more attention in my igs..... basically if i were the only girl, i might feel self-conscious about it. but the only real problem would be with my attitude towards it. i doubt it'd be an actual problem. similarly, if you were the only person of your race on your course, you might feel a bit self-conscious but i doubt it'd be an actual issue for anyone else. plus gender is totally different to race as an example. your gender is such a huge part of who you are, whereas your race is skin deep. your culture, well that's an entirely different thing :wink:

YAY! I totally agree with you!

Reply 96

tami*

why should race matter so much? especially for a course in med and dentistry where u take care of people no matter what race/religion/culture they are

i mean ok, say u go to whatever uni with the ethnic ratio you want right, when u come out with ur mbbs or whatever ur not going to be able to say i want to treat only patients of X race...

Yet another point that makes pure sense to me...

Reply 97

#1_Wasteman

Hmm, I seem to be getting warned for every post I make. At this rate, I'll be banned by the end of the week - but do I care..?

bright star

oh, here's all this stuff about perceived stigma, and enacted stigma actually relevant.... really should have paid more attention in my igs..... basically if i were the only girl, i might feel self-conscious about it. but the only real problem would be with my attitude towards it. i doubt it'd be an actual problem. similarly, if you were the only person of your race on your course, you might feel a bit self-conscious but i doubt it'd be an actual issue for anyone else. plus gender is totally different to race as an example. your gender is such a huge part of who you are, whereas your race is skin deep. your culture, well that's an entirely different thing :wink:

Now, I frequent many forums. Some which are based on games, movies, gadgets, and a fair few on students/academics. But, this post, is by far the most ludicrously frivolous I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Calling it absolute rubbish is an understatement. I mean, talk about easier said than done. How would feeling self conscious not be an actual problem? How on earth would it just go away? Is this the sort of retarded logic you're relying on to back up your subjective, wholly ignorant point? Pathetic.

For the record, I attend a predominantly white school in a predominantly white area (Coopers Company anyone?) and although I've never (I use that lightly) been subjected to racist abuse, and have no problem whatsoever with white people, the fact that I was the only ethnic in my form from years 7-11 was ALWAYS an issue - one which worsened as I got older. I'm in Sixth Form now and thankfully some external applicants were put in my new form - one of whom was asian (I'm black) and the number of cultural similarities we share surprised even me. It made last year bearable. And people like you are trying to tell me that race/ethnicity/culture isn't an issue? Yeh, like I'm going to willingly put myself in that kind of situation again. Grow a brain, star.

scaryhair

No, actually, quite the opposite. I can assure you there would be an uproar if someone posted a thread saying that they didn't want to be with too many people from ethnic minorities.
It seems that only white people can be racist - if a person called a black person a word rhyming with tigger, you'd be looked down on by all of society, but if a black person called a white person whiteboy, or white trash then there would be nothing.

Here we go again. Reverse racism bullcrap. You know what, I'm not even going to bother...

scaryhair

And to be honest - wanting to be with your own ethnic group? You're in England remember. Its a majority-white country.

Thanks for reminding me - I'd forgotten for a sec there...

scaryhair

YAY! I totally agree with you!

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