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History BA at uni:whats it really like?

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Reply 40
In your third year, one hell of alot of work. I've been in the library for 12 hours today, and am back there 9 am tomo. :frown:
Only being a peasant A level student, i don't know anything what so ever about uni, but you guys seem to make it sound awesome but incredibly huge amounts of work, so a question I'm thinking is, how easy is it to fail, or should i say not achieve a degree at all ?
Reply 42
Nah, it's pretty easy not to fail (i.e get a 3rd) but it's very hard to get a 1st.
Reply 43
Oh, and I forgot to mention that you will realise very quickly that you need to manage your time properly, but never actually do so, and probably have a crisis the day before each of your essays is due, and be reading on the way to your seminars...
Reply 44
LOL Reece it's practically impossible to fail your History degree. Even with any relevant knowledge and a bit of common sense you should be able to get a Third. Most people nowadays end up with 2.iis and 2.is but they actually require a lot of work but should be doable. A First is very very difficult to come by. Some say you just have to read lots, but I think a large factor in it is your actual ability. I could read 247 and still not manage to get a First LOL.
Reply 45
YES. I handed in my final essay of the semester yesterday, and now I'm free :smile:
Reply 46
How do I do skim a book? Writing an essay and I spending too long reading and making notes on one book and hardly any time on the others!
Reply 47
Depends what you're writing about. If it's a certain topic then just look for keywords to the topic and skip everything else.
ames123
How do I do skim a book? Writing an essay and I spending too long reading and making notes on one book and hardly any time on the others!

Intro, conclusion and the relevent chapter (if there is no relevent chapter, ditch the book and find a different one)

It's an art that all history students get down to fine T eventually
Reply 49
Yeah I thought I'd never get it but by mid term it was there! It's not always the best idea but often necessary. I just ended up looking for key words but also year dates if the article or chapter spanned a greater length of time that the period I was investigating. If certain words don't spring out at you sometimes you can just get through a page in a matter of seconds. Also I find if I read the first sentence of a paragraph and it's obviously an introduction to something irrelevant I can skip the whole paragraph and often the next few that follow it lol.
Reply 50
Stickyvix
Intro, conclusion and the relevent chapter (if there is no relevent chapter, ditch the book and find a different one)

It's an art that all history students get down to fine T eventually


Heh, so true.

I've done this with about 15 books today. Been in the library for 10 hours today. I am knackered :frown:
Reply 51
Stickyvix
Intro, conclusion and the relevent chapter (if there is no relevent chapter, ditch the book and find a different one)

It's an art that all history students get down to fine T eventually


You'd think so wouldn't you?! I'm in third year, should of got it by now!!

I just seem to write anything vaguely revelvant because I think it will help with my understand of the topic as a whole!
Thats LSE and I done with eachother for the term. Splendid.
Reply 53
Arrghhh. I'm still in the library. Got in here at 8:30 this morning, and don't think I'll leave till 10. I have to get this essay finished tonight. Fortunatly I'm in a little specialist library on campus where I work so I have tea and coffee here, and can have my music on too :biggrin:
I'm revising for an exam tomorrow and then I'm done diddly done until 22nd of Jan

Only have pre reading and my diss to do over Christmas - heaven :biggrin:
I walked into a pillar in front of the cafe. I fell over backwards in my chair in the library (but I think only one person saw me).

This is why you don't stay up until 2 am watching TV and then have your roommate wake you up at 6 am (unintentionally? i don't think so)....

I have exams on Saturday and my TSR usage has increased exponentially :biggrin:
Reply 56
ames123
How do I do skim a book? Writing an essay and I spending too long reading and making notes on one book and hardly any time on the others!



It depends what it is, an article is generally easiest to skim - the author will set the introduction, make a point and then bring up several examples. I generally skip over the numerous examples as I don't need them for my argument. I look for the analysis and actual argument within the article.

Books can be tricky depending on their type - chronological books, like biographies, are a nightmare and you really need to know the detailed chronology in order to skip to the time when there will be the most analysis, if this isn't the case then you just have to plow through the book looking for it. Thematic books are better, by reading the introduction and conclusion, and any important chapters (or even just the beginning and end of them) you can get a grasp of that historians' argument.

djjz13
Question.
I was reading over my A2 coursework - which I'm told is the closest you will ever get to degree level history within the A-Level syllabus.

Now in terms of conclusions I was a little confused, how do you usually finish? I mean if you have been criticising lots of views, agreeing with others, do you agree with parts of each historian's argument? For example "I agree with points A and B made by Dr. Bloggs, but he overstates C, whereas Dr. Smith has a more correct analysis of event C. Or is it more common to form a new theory entirely based on conclusions from the evidence you have seen? Hope that question makes sense, it did in my thought process...


You write in a completely different style, you don't criticise other views that much (and if I do I tend to confine it to the introduction as a counter-point to the essay), you simply tend to argue your own. The majority of my conclusions are completely focused on me stating MY argument, rather than discussing the arguments of others. This is by no means perfect, and is just an example of a conclusion I've written this year, but this is a typical conclusion (to the essay question 'How successfully did Henry IV manage the transition from duke to king?'):

Ultimately the success of Henry IV’s transition from duke to king can be measured in his legacy. He took control of a kingdom which had suffered hugely disrupting turmoil as the son of a duke, and passed on the kingship of a secure, generally peaceful realm to the popular son of a king. Although Henry IV battled with problems of government and with his own personal health, these two issues helped to create the situation in which his son could create the secure Lancastrian powerbase among the nobles which he had never managed to accomplish himself. His use of the Lancastrian retinue may have caused problems but it was also a key factor in the success of his transition from duke to king and of the transition from the situation at the beginning of his realm to that at the beginning of his son’s. If Henry had not required a hugely expensive retinue in order to secure power than he would not have placed such a strain on royal finances, if he had not replaced Richard II’s royal administrative officials with those of the duchy then the financial crises of his early reign may not have occurred and the subsequent complaints about Henry’s government would not have solidified into a coherent opposition led by his son, and if Henry had felt powerful enough, both politically and physically, to exert a controlling kingship during his reign then the complaints about, and the subsequent overthrow of, his royal government may have never occurred.
As it was, even though there were many negative factors, Henry IV can therefore be said to have managed the family’s transition from dukes to kings successfully; however, his own personal transition was a difficult one – he was partly prevented from being truly successful by important factors outside of his control, namely the lack of political support in the form of magnates of majority age, his debilitating and restricting illness and his position as the ‘wrongful’ heir. He was ultimately successful in that he managed to secure his right to kingship and secure enough support in order to remain king and brush off support for the rightful heir or the ‘false Richards’ which was appearing during his reign, but he was ultimately unable to transition from duke to king in the literal sense, Henry IV firmly remained both in separate forms. By truly amalgamating the structure of the duchy into the royal administration and appropriating substantial funds for his government, Henry V embodies the end-point in the transition of the Lancaster family in the early fifteenth century from being a firmly ducal family to truly forming the basis of the royal family. Therefore, while Henry IV started the transition from duke to king and managed to successfully ride out the storm of his early reign, it was his son who truly took advantage of the situation his father had created and became a king in possession of a duchy, rather than a duke who was trying to be accepted as king.
Reply 57
Just out of interest, what mark did you get in that essay?
Reply 58
I didn't get one - my supervisor didn't give them. Though when she finally judged my performance (at the end of term) she thought I was at the level of 1st/upper 2.1.
Reply 59
footy99
Sounds quite a bit like the IB programme :p:

Looking forward to studying the subject though. :biggrin:



Yh, the IB!!!!!!!!!!!! It was so stressful, so much independent work because teachers did not cover topicsin detail!!!!!! History degree doesnt scare me, I've seen all of that ---- thanks to the IB:rolleyes:

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