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Getting Kathy fit again. (injury recovery and fitness regaining blog)

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Original post by Kathy89
I was too afraid to do the ACL surgery. Was it scary? How's your recovery so far? Hope you are doing better. How did you got injured?(if you don't mind me asking)....

Ask away! I injured it two years ago playing rugby and like most acl injuries, i was turning with no contact from anyone else when it snapped. I knew it was ****ed but i taped it up and stayed on for the last twenty minutes because we had no subs but I couldn't do anything but hobble. It kept giving way over the next two years so i couldn't even run which is why I chose to have the surgery.

I had the surgery in September and went back to work, on crutches, a week later. I didn't find ir as bad as everyone made it out to be. Sure the rehab is slow going and a lot of hard work but at least it won't keep giving way all of the time. Hoping that I'll one day be able to return to rugby but I'm not sure how likely it is...
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Original post by CleverSquirrel
I did, I played national level basketball before j got rotator cuff tendonitis and that hindered me from playing more! I stopped before uni but I still play every now and then with the lads on the uni team during rec and all! These days it's just uni, gym and sleep for me haha
:smile: Fellow basketballer! I miss playing.
How's your shoulder doing now?

Original post by Justmac
Ask away! I injured it two years ago playing rugby and like most acl injuries, i was turning with no contact from anyone else when it snapped. I knew it was ****ed but i taped it up and stayed on for the last twenty minutes because we had no subs but I couldn't do anything but hobble. It kept giving way over the next two years so i couldn't even run which is why I chose to have the surgery.

I had the surgery in September and went back to work, on crutches, a week later. I didn't find ir as bad as everyone made it out to be. Sure the rehab is slow going and a lot of hard work but at least it won't keep giving way all of the time. Hoping that I'll one day be able to return to rugby but I'm not sure how likely it is...
Good luck with your recovery!!!
I'm still afraid of the surgery, I know too many things can go wrong there, but it is good to hear about people who did the surgery and it went well.
Hope you'd be able to return to rugby one day, at least at an amateur level, playing with neighborhood guys. Good luck!!!
Reply 22
Had a migraine for the last three days. Never had such a long migraine, it was a light one but long.
Today I ran 500m and jogged about 30 minutes.
Eating a lot of raw fruits and vegetables as well as rice-pasta with fried vegetables.
Now watching football and eating nuts.
Reply 23
Schedualed a blood test for friday, it seems strange to have so many migraines in a week.
Today I ran 1km and now I am tired, but my leg feels fine.

I ate much better today:
Breakfast : Oatmeal with date honey and berries.

Snack : chick-pea snack
Lunch : Huge Salad with quinoa and nuts, orange juice, home-made rice bread.
Snack : dried pineaple
Dinner : lentils salad with carot and greens.


Tomorrow my new headphones should arrive. Still waiting for the shoes.
Reply 24
2 Days of just jogging 1km.
today will have enough time to do more, if the weather will be good enough. Now it is stormy outside, so I am thinking of just some yoga and basic muscle training at home for today.

My headphones are great! not very comfortable with the glasses, but much better than the wired ones or the huge blutooth ones.
Now I am searching for a comfortabe winter clothes for sports, glad I have small breasts so most of the things will fit well.
Reply 25
Yesterday morning I did the blood test. In the evening I went out to run/jog a bit. It was very cold and rainy so I ran only 500m and walked back home. At home did some push-ups and some general exercises but my hand hurts a bit from the needle.

I am thinking of actually making a routine. Although I know I will not stick to it.

Today I woke up with a headache again, so I drank coffee. The nurse who took my blood suggested taking B12 and Zink. I was confident of my nutrition when I was eating better, now I know I dont eat well enough and I'm worried I have some deficiencies.
Original post by Kathy89
Yesterday morning I did the blood test. In the evening I went out to run/jog a bit. It was very cold and rainy so I ran only 500m and walked back home. At home did some push-ups and some general exercises but my hand hurts a bit from the needle.

I am thinking of actually making a routine. Although I know I will not stick to it.

Today I woke up with a headache again, so I drank coffee. The nurse who took my blood suggested taking B12 and Zink. I was confident of my nutrition when I was eating better, now I know I dont eat well enough and I'm worried I have some deficiencies.


B12 and zinc deficiencies are commonly seen in vegan diets. You should try for more meat substitutes (google B12 alternatives for vegans). Zinc will be trickier. However, since you have not defined the reasons behind your diet, may I suggest going vegetarian instead? you could just eat fish and look for some dairies from sustainable farms. Vegan diet without the help of a dietitian and without a large monthly budget (at least where I am ) is likely to leave you malnurished . Satiety is also an issue , you will be feeling hungrier. Some people seem to not be bothered by it since vegan foods are mostly less caloric dense so they can eat more.
Be aware that there has been meat sustainability research and it points towards a sharp reduction but not elimination of meat. A recent study showed that everyone consuming about 50 grams of red or 85 of chicken meat a day is the sweet spot for economies, animals and health. You can try googling food economics meat sustainability for more.
Cheers and stay strong !
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Reply 27
Original post by SkillBill
B12 and zinc deficiencies are commonly seen in vegan diets. You should try for more meat substitutes (google B12 alternatives for vegans). Zinc will be trickier. However, since you have not defined the reasons behind your diet, may I suggest going vegetarian instead? you could just eat fish and look for some dairies from sustainable farms. Vegan diet without the help of a dietitian and without a large monthly budget (at least where I am ) is likely to leave you malnurished . Satiety is also an issue , you will be feeling hungrier. Some people seem to not be bothered by it since vegan foods are mostly less caloric dense so they can eat more.
Be aware that there has been meat sustainability research and it points towards a sharp reduction but not elimination of meat. A recent study showed that everyone consuming about 50 grams of red or 85 of chicken meat a day is the sweet spot for economies, animals and health. You can try googling food economics meat sustainability for more.
Cheers and stay strong !

Thanks a lot for your impact.

I am vegan for over 4 years for health reasons. Just recently I started eating bad again because I am too lazy to cook and it is not always easy to get quality food outside. As I said, lately I've been 'sinning' with diary meals now and then, I'm sure that even if something is not right now, it will be fixed as soon as I start eating well again, which I am working on too.

The zinc is something I should take anyway, you are right in this part, no doubt.

When I was vegetarian (transitioning to vegan) I ate salmon. I was vegetarian for over a year befor going fully vegan, and later mostly raw food vegan. This was the best time. I've experienced the most improvement in my overall health, much less allergies and migraines. The past half a year the only thing that didn't deteriorate was my eyesight, the rest got worse. It is one of the reasons I wanted to go back to physical activity and nutrition.

Anyways, the doctor appointment is tomorrow and I'm hopefully going to find what is wrong.

Today I was feeling great, despite the 10 hours of work. I ran 1.2KM (a little over minutes, which is bad, but it is a good result for me now... I know I shouldn't do it and I hope my leg will not hurt tomorrow, it hurts now, probably because of the brace itself. I would never suggest anyone in my situation to try running on time at this stage at least... but I really wanted to.
Reply 28
Great news.... my blood is good, everything is normal. A bit too high Uric acid and Vit.D is a bit too low but it's ok.
Vitamin D just means that I need to spend more time outdoors and not inside a car, which is a great reason to start walking more, exactly what I did today.
The downside of the good news is that I still don't know why I have so many migraines. Today I had another one right after coming back from a long walk, it was sunny and it seems like a sort of a heat wave coming (which may explain the migraine). I drank coffee and slept about 3 hours and it seems it helped... now I am overenergetic and a bit hyper though. I started wearing the progressive glasses again just in case it is eyesight related and I'm in denial).

The doctor suggested to book an MRI test, the waiting is about 3 months... trying to find something quicker...

Today I made sushi (vegan sushi, with no fish.... yeah, not so interesting but I still don't want to eat fish). Ate a hot Missu soup with a lot of see-weed and baked tofu. Now I am waiting for the baked vegies to be ready and going to eat it with a rice-pasta and some fresh peppers.
will make vegan pancakes tomorrow morning for breakfast and will take some home-made vegie-burgers and salad for work.

Tomorrow will sit down on a training routine for the week.
Ready to listen to any suggestions for beginners (not really a beginner but it is a good start for a routine).
Reply 29
Thanks. :smile:

It is not very high. The normal levels are up to 6.6 and mine is 6.7. Probably there are a lot of things that all together brought a slight high result on that one.
- I recently started doing much more physical activity.
- Was drinking not enough water because of the migraines
- Of course the bad sources of protein (mostly junk and soy and not beans and greens), a few times had dairy (milk chocolate, some sweets)
- Had a birthday and drank much more than usual. (3 days in a row)... but it was a month ago...

I'm happy that everything came out fine... I was sure I'm anemic or something...
Reply 30
Uric acid in males and females have different norms. For males 7.6 is the higher morm limit, so 7.7 is almost normal, it is not that critical if you are a male. It is usually managable with nutrition.
I'm sure everything is going to be fine with better nutrition.
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Reply 31
Different countries have different norms.

Good luck with your jurney. Hope you are working under a medical supervision, hormones are not something to play with.
Reply 32
Again, I was too busy to write....:s-smilie:
Anyways, I started a routine for beginners

Day 1 :u:

I started doing it just like a training session, and not a bit of stratching and than stright to running.
A lot of stratching - about 30 minutes.
300m really slow running, 300m faster running, 300m slower running 300m walking. - 3 takes.
Relaxation stratches.

Day 2
A lot of stratching mainly for arms and abdomen - about 20 minutes.

Push ups - 10 push ups x 4 times - 2 min. break
Pull up - 1 pull up (up to chin and slowly ) x 3 times - 1 min. break :thumbsup: (never thought I'd manage that... guess I'm stronger than I thought)
5 min break.
1.5kg weights - 20 times each arm. x 3 times - 1 min. break ( I know it's nothing, it's just a start, don't want to push too hard).
Sit ups - 15 sit ups - 4 times - 2min. break .
Relaxation straching and exercises.

I also did a good job with the food :eating: , 4 ballanced meals a day, despte the amount of work... that's the reason for not having time to post on TSR :colondollar:

Day 3
A lot of work finished at 22:00 had a lot of paperwork to do after a whole day of being out and trying to get money from customers and deal with tones of replacemnts and returns (end of the year stuff). Ending up driving back home on a rainy night, so didn't want to do anything but drink hot chocolate (rice-milk based homemade) and watch a show.

Today is cold and rainy outside so I might just do the exercises again....:thumbdown:
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Reply 33
Day 4
A lot of stratching mainly for arms and abdomen - about 20 minutes.

Push ups - 15 push ups x 4 times - 2 min. break
Pull up - 1 pull up (up to chin and slowly ) x 3 times - 2 min. break (did worse than last time).
5 min break.
1.5kg weights - 25 times each arm. x 3 times - 1 min. break
Sit ups - 20 sit ups - 4 times - 2min. break .
Relaxation straching and exercises.

Day 5

15 minutes strachings.
500m slow run, 500m faster run, 1000m slow run, 500m faster run, 500m slow run, 300m walk, relaxation straching.

I already feel progress, but my leg feels strange. I'm looking for some better brace.
Reply 34
It's been almost a month since my last update.
I was super busy with many things at work and my personal life.
I was exercising though.

My status now :
Push ups - 25 push ups x 4 times - 2 min. break
Pull up - 2 pull up (up to chin and slowly ) x 3 times - 1 min. break
1.5kg weights - 40 times each arm. x 3 times - 1 min. break
Sit ups - 40 sit ups - 4 times - 2min. break .
I also add more weight exercises I do 1 or two every other day.

As for running, the new knee-brace is amazing! I'm a bit worried it doesn't give enough support because it is so light and flexible, it is more of a band than a brace, although it does an amazing job, I feel much more comfortable running.
I run 1.5km-2km, trying to run the 1.5 in a bit faster pace. If I am not running I walk fast and I'd do 3km-4km.

As for the diet thing... it's a bit of a problem.... the new-year was a catastrophy... the amount of dairy I ate was enough for the whole year...I did end up feeling sick, I didn't ate so much dairy in years.
As for day to day diet. I am trying to eat better, but I was too busy so I ate junk... it's either eating a falafel or eating a double portion of a salad (which cost 5 times more and it is less effective timewise). At home I'd eat a home made soup and rice/grain/quinoa with vegies.
Yesterday actually was a good day, I baked a sweet potato and filled it with baked vegetables and quinoa.

Now I am eating a red cabbage and onion salad. Will go for a run in about 2 hours... :biggrin:

My leg doesn't feel any worse so I guess I'm on a right path, but still worried about not doing as the docs says.
Reply 35
Today was a good day. It was warm outside so I went for a run, ran 3km. :woo:

I also ate really well today.
Breakfast : a toast (whole wheat and grain bread with hazlenut and elmond based chocolate and organic peanut butter, whithout any added sugar) + fruit sallad (banana, mellon, apple, pear, 2-3 dates and some raisins).
Snack : Masalla tea + almond milk with maple and dark chocolate cookies
Lunch : Huge portion of sallad (a lot of vegies and greens), brown rice with vegitables.
Snack : Banana and a persimon.
Dinner (soon): Baked sweet potato with cooked beans with vegies. + Orange juice.
Reply 36
Again was too busy at work and with personal life issues (not a place to share here but can share in PM). Anyways, as a part of my journey to a healthier self I decided to reduce the time spent in-front of screens, so that's another reason for not being here that much.

Possitive Updates
- I am stable at 3km working more on the pace now.
- Started to do more weight exercises, my arms got weaker from years without a basketball practice, I've always being weak and tiny which is fine, but still could lift my bike 4 floors without feeling dead afterwards, now I can't... so it is time to improve.
- I eat much healthier, back to a fully vegan diet with little junk, still not as strict as I used to be, not really think too strict is good for me, but will see, if there will be less improvement than expected I will go more strict.

Neutral Updates
- Started drinking more often. I reduced the amount of water I drink every time but started drinking more often. I've heard it helps with detoxing and cleaning the body, although have to use the bathroom often, it should be benefitial.... we'll see.
- ordered a lot of different elastic bands from the internet, many of them for the knee, will try to find the one that is the most comfortable to run with, yet gives enough support. In addition, I am trying to find a more open-minded knee specialist to help me with that...
- Trying to find the best outfit for exercising outside, and trying to spend more time being in a fresh air, outside of the work (I do work outside, but most of the time I'm in the car).

Negative Updates
- I am sick again... 4th time since October... never been sick that often since primary school. Probably should get another blood test in a few weeks.
- Talked to a friend of mine from university, I told her about getting back to running and stuff.... she actually told me very interesting thing about myself.... I'm in denial... a lot... about many problems I have. It is sort of a new way of coping with things I developed in my early adulthood... Every time I have a problem I know it deep inside, but I try to deny it... when it helps with being able to speak in public and being more outgoing and social, it doesn't help at all dealing with personal life issues and health issues. It is more frustrating for me that a person who is not a close friend of mine noticed that. I always count myself as a person who is aware of ones own health/body but when she mentioned it it lit a lot of red lights... I know things are not good, but I'd rather make myself believe that it is ok.... like for example if my leg starts hurting while running, I'd rather say to myself that it should be that way when deep inside I'd be worried that it might be wrong/dangerous, just because I want to run...
It all started from talking about going back to fully-vegan diet and about working on eyesight improvement, she checked my eyes (we are both optometrists) and told me a rather bad news for me... my eyes got worse (she didn't know that I am using a 6/9 under correction), meaning it stays the same for the last about two years... anyways, she made a strong point about myself being in denial.... it is something I knew for a long time, but when people notice it it means things are worse than what I imagine....

(Bottom line, a lot of things still to work on).... But I am positive :smile:
Reply 37
Decided to do something different with this blog today, something that can actually help others in similar situation or at least give some impact.
Here is a sort of Q&A about the fitness progress and the recovery.

What is the hardest part of the recovery?
Physically - As a former runner I find it very hard to adopt a new style of running. I used to run almost without stepping on the heal, making a smooth transition of foot possition while stepping. Now I have to fully step on the foot, otherwise it hurts my knee and ankle. In addition, the knee brace is not comfortable, well, the new one is ok, but I'm afraid it doesn't give enough support.
Mentally - Just as before, wanting to be able to run more and feeling bad about not being able to is pretty hard. The other thing is lack of support from the surrounding and from doctors. The easiest answer is "just don't run", it is not something I am looking for.

How about the weight thing?
I am still underweight, I am not about loosing weight, maybe even gaining weight if I am lucky. Right now I am the same weight.

What about diet?
Diet (proper nutrition) is a very important part, unfortunately I am still not working well with it. Lack of time to cook proper meals, lack of support from friends, family and colleagues is the worst part here... I always give up and eat junk or fast food or processed food just because it is easier.

Are you having fun?
Despite all the negative things I posted here, yes, I am having a lot of fun. Running always was fun for me. It is relaxing and a good way to let my mind rest from the day. It may sound funny, but when I run/walk listening to music I can disconnect myself from the surrounding and relax.... similar to meditation.

Essentials for running.
- A small sports bag to hold the things.
- Bottle of water.
- Elastic Band. In case my knee will hurt and will need a bit more support.
- Swiss spray. Just a good sports first aid.
- Phone, keys, some money, eyedrops (especially if I'm with contacts).

Clothing:
Tight shorts (thermal ones in winter, they are great) , Sports bra (luckily I have small breasts so it is very comfortable, I know it is harder to find good ones for larger breasts, but I'm lucky in this case), Sweatshirt on top of the bra, and if it is really cold I'd wear a sweater on top. Sport shoes, not really a fan of brands, but the Nike ones are great for me in the winter.
I use an elastic knee brace, I don't know how it is called, bought it on aliexpress, it is something between a brace and a band, gives enough support but doesn't make moving the knee too hard.
I use MP3 neckband headohones, they are decent, still the blutooth headphes for runners are better quality, but the neckband is much more comfortable. I use to put only one earplug to still be aware of the surroundings.

I don't know how other glasses wearers do with running, I hate wearing glasses, they are uncomfortable. Usually I wasn't wearing them when running, especially in daylight, now I feel safer wearing them, I've ordered some sports ones, as my regular ones are not comfortable, some bounce, other just feel too tight but still slip. Contacts are not always an option (most of the time I do wear contacts though), so I ordered a sports frame, hope it will fit my head. Wearing a band to hold the glasses doesn't seem to be comfortable, but I will try that if the sports frame won't fit me.

Hair perks...
Having long straight hair makes it harder to tie it in a way it will hold I like making a bob-tail and wearing a band, sometimes I'd just go with a band.
Reply 38
So, another update after quiet a long time without any update.

Saturday was a city running event I took part of. I registered for a 5km run. It was great, I don't even know the time, just know that I managed to run 5km and both my legs hurt.... they still hurt...
I know I shouldn't run 5km, but lower was 2km and there were mostly kids and elderly people, I didn't feel good about registering for a run with much older people or 9 year olds... just felt weird for me. I don't really care about what people think about me, more about what they do to me, but this time I felt more insecure about what they'd think... don't know why...
Another bad thing is that I lost weight, which is bad... I'm 41kg at 164cm. Which is underweight...
The good thing is that my arms are getting stronger.

Spring is coming so is the hay-fever. I'm looking for less springy places to run at, because the park is full of pollen now. My nose is runny and I can barely breath right, and my eyes are red and itchy, but overall I feel strong and energetic.

I joined a Yoga group so I'd be doing 1-3 Yoga sessions a week, missed Yoga, mostly missed people there. Also I am thinking about joining swimming in the summer.

That's it about some random updates.
41kg at 164cm is ridiculously light :eek:

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