Universal Credit and NHS Bursary (Wales)
I'm having a huge issue with my universal credit claim at the moment and wondering if I can find someone in a similar position to be able to offer any advice.
I'm I'm 2nd year student mh nurse in Wales. I'm also a single parent and claiming universal credit. Every year I declare my student income to universal credit as the course begins. Last year after taking my student income into consideration they deducted around £360 a month from my uc award for the 10 months I was studying. This year, my student finance/bursary amount is exactly the same but universal credit is deducting nearly £700 a month from my claim.
When I queried this with universal credit they said that 'the full nhs bursary' (their words) is disregarded when calculating the income, however the 'Dependants grant' is included in the calculation and therefore their calulation for this year is correct. I asked for clarification because the dependants grant I get is part of the aforementioned 'full nhs bursary' - I believe the dependants grant they are talking about as included would be if I was getting it front student finance not the nhs bursary - and I noted that last year the dependants grant had been disregarded, hence my payments being higher for the entire of the last academic year. WELL. They came back to me and said that not only do they believe their calculation calculation be correct, they now believe my calculation for last year was wrong and I now owe NEARLY £3000 that was overpaid. I'm in complete shock and disbelief. Everything I've found online from uc, rcn, benefit calculators etc says that the full nhs bursary should be disregarded. Basically I just want to know if there's anyone on universal credit, in a single parent household and also getting the nhs bursary in Wales who can tell me how much of their student income is taken into consideration when they're working out the deductions. Very specific I know 😅 I have contacted citizens advice and will be getting a call from them tomorrow but I'm sitting here ruminating and stressing so just thought I'd reach out and see if anyone is/has been in a similar situation. Thanks so much! 😊
I'm I'm 2nd year student mh nurse in Wales. I'm also a single parent and claiming universal credit. Every year I declare my student income to universal credit as the course begins. Last year after taking my student income into consideration they deducted around £360 a month from my uc award for the 10 months I was studying. This year, my student finance/bursary amount is exactly the same but universal credit is deducting nearly £700 a month from my claim.
When I queried this with universal credit they said that 'the full nhs bursary' (their words) is disregarded when calculating the income, however the 'Dependants grant' is included in the calculation and therefore their calulation for this year is correct. I asked for clarification because the dependants grant I get is part of the aforementioned 'full nhs bursary' - I believe the dependants grant they are talking about as included would be if I was getting it front student finance not the nhs bursary - and I noted that last year the dependants grant had been disregarded, hence my payments being higher for the entire of the last academic year. WELL. They came back to me and said that not only do they believe their calculation calculation be correct, they now believe my calculation for last year was wrong and I now owe NEARLY £3000 that was overpaid. I'm in complete shock and disbelief. Everything I've found online from uc, rcn, benefit calculators etc says that the full nhs bursary should be disregarded. Basically I just want to know if there's anyone on universal credit, in a single parent household and also getting the nhs bursary in Wales who can tell me how much of their student income is taken into consideration when they're working out the deductions. Very specific I know 😅 I have contacted citizens advice and will be getting a call from them tomorrow but I'm sitting here ruminating and stressing so just thought I'd reach out and see if anyone is/has been in a similar situation. Thanks so much! 😊
I'm on UC, single parent but living at home with parents at the moment. I'm yet to join university next september for midwifery and update my UC on the student income changes such as bursaries, grants etc when the time comes.
I'm so shocked by this... it even sounds ethically wrong for them to downgrade your UC income because of the nhs bursary. That makes no sense at all... the bursary you can do what you like with but it's there to help aid you with your studies therefore it definitely shouldn't affect the income that you already receive.
Sorry I can't be of any help but just want to say I agree with you.
Just a quick query as I've never met someone in a similar situation with me regarding UC and university tuition. Do they cut down your claim from UC originally when you start getting your university tuition? Or does it stay the same. (Obviously I know it has now changed for you). But originally did it make a difference to your income from UC??
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I'm so shocked by this... it even sounds ethically wrong for them to downgrade your UC income because of the nhs bursary. That makes no sense at all... the bursary you can do what you like with but it's there to help aid you with your studies therefore it definitely shouldn't affect the income that you already receive.
Sorry I can't be of any help but just want to say I agree with you.
Just a quick query as I've never met someone in a similar situation with me regarding UC and university tuition. Do they cut down your claim from UC originally when you start getting your university tuition? Or does it stay the same. (Obviously I know it has now changed for you). But originally did it make a difference to your income from UC??
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xOriginal post by Majewska7
Hi what information did you get from citizen advice? I'm looking to apply for Nursing, but trying to work out how much money I need to support myself and children if I do go study.
You'll need to discuss any possible further help you are entitled to with the relevant student finance company for whatever country of the UK you are living in. They will guide you with everything.
You should contact citizens advice yourself and ask them about this...
A new training grant is now available to help support nursing students with their living costs while they study.
To apply for the training grant, you’ll need to be studying for at least a full academic year from August 2020. You’ll also need to be eligible for the maintenance element of the student loan in order to be eligible; so some students from EU countries who are studying in England will not be able to apply.
How do I apply?
You can apply for this grant in addition to your student loan; plus it is non-means tested, it doesn’t need to be repaid and you can apply directly through your online NHS LSF account.
Additional funding
Further support (up to £3,000 a year) will be available for some students in regions or specialisms struggling to recruit, or to help students cover childcare costs.
£2,000 parental support is also available for students with at least one dependent child under 15 years, or under 17 years if registered with special educational needs.
What can student nurses claim........ Additional information for you
A childcare allowance, if relevant, can help to cover the majority of your childcare costs. You can also claim Practice Placement Expenses if you incur extra travel and accommodation costs while on a practice placement. Furthermore, hardship grants and loans are available to Students who are eligible.
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Hello!
So late to the thread I know.. but was just wondering if anyone ever managed to make sense of student finance and UC?
I've just been hit up with a £5000 over payment for the last academic year, and so far can't find anything or anyone who's able to give some guidance. My journal message states that the over payment is due to a miscalculation of student finance. I also thought and previously had confirmed that the bursary was not classed as income but that the Student Finance Wales income was?
Anyone able to help before I give up and go back to retail
So late to the thread I know.. but was just wondering if anyone ever managed to make sense of student finance and UC?
I've just been hit up with a £5000 over payment for the last academic year, and so far can't find anything or anyone who's able to give some guidance. My journal message states that the over payment is due to a miscalculation of student finance. I also thought and previously had confirmed that the bursary was not classed as income but that the Student Finance Wales income was?
Anyone able to help before I give up and go back to retail
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