Leeds Dentistry 2024 Entry
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Original post by Jetjo123
They said at openday they’re not sure what they’ll do about UCAT and I know people including myself who recently e-mailed to ask and got the same response. So anyone applying to Leeds this year is taking a risk. Bc it’s an unknown. But mainly it’s a risk for those with 2800 plus as they’d be guaranteed interviews at Bristol. Glasgow Manchester and QMUL. They did used to do BMAT which looking at the medicine thread people (not all!) mostly do bc they have a low UCAT. So, I’m not sure if that gives any clues. The only thing I’d say is at the openday I got the impression they’re looking more at the type of person more than basing it solely on results. They mentioned it’s harder at Leeds bc there’s an extra qualification compared to other universities. So more work. I think you have to ignore anyone’s advice, opinion or best guess on Leeds and decide for yourself because none of us know how they intend to deal with the UCAT -they don’t know yet apparently. Good luck.
okay thank you!
Original post by choco1234
do leeds look at/score the personal statement?
Nobody really knows what they’re doing this year. From being at the openday I don’t recall them saying they score it. They definitely said they read it. They said reference was important with good GCSEs.
Original post by choco1234
do leeds look at/score the personal statement?
this what the website says:
"The personal statement of the application form helps us to assess the nature of the applicant’s interest in the academic subject and is an important part of the selection process. Applicants should take this opportunity to demonstrate their enthusiasm and aptitude for the academic subject. Further information about what we wish to hear about is available in our personal statement guidelines.
An applicant may be assessed based on the strength of their statement relative to others in their cohort, and/or based on criteria set by the academic school.
The School of Dentistry will not accept statements sent in separately to the personal statement included with your application."
https://www.leeds.ac.uk/undergraduate-applying/doc/undergraduate-admissions-policy-school-dentistry-2024-25
when it came to their foi (when they looked at bmat they said)
"Academic, professional qualifications and BMAT scores are given values, totalled and then applicants are ranked and invited to interview on this basis. Personal statements are reviewed and scored using a strict marking criterion, they are used to differentiate between applicants scoring equally. BMAT scores are viewed in combination with the applicants' overall academic achievements against the rest of the cohort applying that year, therefore there is no specific BMAT score required."
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/dental_surgery_a200#incoming-2263278
so i assume they will score but who really knows
Original post by akkanodia
Any idea at what time dentistry open day talks beginning today, and venue?
can you let us know what they say please!
Very confused lot.
Different individuals said different things.
Not even clear if they would score personal statement or not. One person said yes, other said no, but told "would certainly be looked at" before calling for interview.
No clarity on SJT or even UCAT banding.
No clarity if final offers would entirely be on interview or not, one person said yes, other said a combined score of academic, ucat, PS and interview. Both people were looking after admissions! One delivered the talk, other answering all queries at the reception, so both were kinda "leads."
Till last year, till they had BMAT, they only had about 350 applications. For reference, Manchester had about 1000 applications for same number of places. This year, they said decisions would be based on total number of applications received, that are expected to rise more than a 1000 and how data looks like . They are gearing up for higher number and would take decisions after they know the number.
But nice building and facilities. Tough course as it involves a master"s thesis, so you get an extra degree. But it doesn't make you a specialist, as technically you are still a dentist. But would be helpful to those who want to persue research.
That was the crux of discussions.
My own assessment, if you have clear 4 choices elsewhere, better to avoid. If you don't have that, risk can be taken.
PS, unrelated topic, Had written to Bristol head of dental school. They are not increasing number of places this year for UK students as it cannot be increased without govt approval (govt tightly controls number of all UK schools for UK students) . They were non committal about international places as they are self funded,
Different individuals said different things.
Not even clear if they would score personal statement or not. One person said yes, other said no, but told "would certainly be looked at" before calling for interview.
No clarity on SJT or even UCAT banding.
No clarity if final offers would entirely be on interview or not, one person said yes, other said a combined score of academic, ucat, PS and interview. Both people were looking after admissions! One delivered the talk, other answering all queries at the reception, so both were kinda "leads."
Till last year, till they had BMAT, they only had about 350 applications. For reference, Manchester had about 1000 applications for same number of places. This year, they said decisions would be based on total number of applications received, that are expected to rise more than a 1000 and how data looks like . They are gearing up for higher number and would take decisions after they know the number.
But nice building and facilities. Tough course as it involves a master"s thesis, so you get an extra degree. But it doesn't make you a specialist, as technically you are still a dentist. But would be helpful to those who want to persue research.
That was the crux of discussions.
My own assessment, if you have clear 4 choices elsewhere, better to avoid. If you don't have that, risk can be taken.
PS, unrelated topic, Had written to Bristol head of dental school. They are not increasing number of places this year for UK students as it cannot be increased without govt approval (govt tightly controls number of all UK schools for UK students) . They were non committal about international places as they are self funded,
(edited 6 months ago)
Original post by akkanodia
Very confused lot.
Different individuals said different things.
Not even clear if they would score personal statement or not. One person said yes, other said no, but told "would certainly be looked at" before calling for interview.
No clarity on SJT or even UCAT banding.
No clarity if final offers would entirely be on interview or not, one person said yes, other said a combined score of academic, ucat, PS and interview. Both people were looking after admissions! One delivered the talk, other answering all queries at the reception, so both were kinda "leads."
Till last year, till they had BMAT, they only had about 350 applications. For reference, Manchester had about 1000 applications for same number of places. This year, they said decisions would be based on total number of applications received, that are expected to rise more than a 1000 and how data looks like . They are gearing up for higher number and would take decisions after they know the number.
But nice building and facilities. Tough course as it involves a master"s thesis, so you get an extra degree. But it doesn't make you a specialist, as technically you are still a dentist. But would be helpful to those who want to persue research.
That was the crux of discussions.
My own assessment, if you have clear 4 choices elsewhere, better to avoid. If you don't have that, risk can be taken.
PS, unrelated topic, Had written to Bristol head of dental school. They are not increasing number of places this year for UK students as it cannot be increased without govt approval (govt tightly controls number I'd all UK schools for UK students) . They were non committal about international places as they are self funded,
Different individuals said different things.
Not even clear if they would score personal statement or not. One person said yes, other said no, but told "would certainly be looked at" before calling for interview.
No clarity on SJT or even UCAT banding.
No clarity if final offers would entirely be on interview or not, one person said yes, other said a combined score of academic, ucat, PS and interview. Both people were looking after admissions! One delivered the talk, other answering all queries at the reception, so both were kinda "leads."
Till last year, till they had BMAT, they only had about 350 applications. For reference, Manchester had about 1000 applications for same number of places. This year, they said decisions would be based on total number of applications received, that are expected to rise more than a 1000 and how data looks like . They are gearing up for higher number and would take decisions after they know the number.
But nice building and facilities. Tough course as it involves a master"s thesis, so you get an extra degree. But it doesn't make you a specialist, as technically you are still a dentist. But would be helpful to those who want to persue research.
That was the crux of discussions.
My own assessment, if you have clear 4 choices elsewhere, better to avoid. If you don't have that, risk can be taken.
PS, unrelated topic, Had written to Bristol head of dental school. They are not increasing number of places this year for UK students as it cannot be increased without govt approval (govt tightly controls number I'd all UK schools for UK students) . They were non committal about international places as they are self funded,
Hi thanks for your reply.
Did you attend yesterday's open day? Did they not say whether they will look at ucat a lot?
Original post by Greekdentist
Hi thanks for your reply.
Did you attend yesterday's open day? Did they not say whether they will look at ucat a lot?
Did you attend yesterday's open day? Did they not say whether they will look at ucat a lot?
Yes. Yesterday, we're not registered but they allowed.
They would certainly look at UCAT. But not clear how.
No clarity on deciles, SJT or whether it will be part of final offer.
Would certainly be counted before interview.
Original post by akkanodia
Yes. Yesterday, we're not registered but they allowed.
They would certainly look at UCAT. But not clear how.
No clarity on deciles, SJT or whether it will be part of final offer.
Would certainly be counted before interview.
They would certainly look at UCAT. But not clear how.
No clarity on deciles, SJT or whether it will be part of final offer.
Would certainly be counted before interview.
I see yeah it is very unclear how they will use the ucat. I feel they will be 100% ucat it is easy for them to eliminate people right if they get 1000+ applications. But this will be so unfair given that it is their first year of using ucat.
Original post by Greekdentist
I see yeah it is very unclear how they will use the ucat. I feel they will be 100% ucat it is easy for them to eliminate people right if they get 1000+ applications. But this will be so unfair given that it is their first year of using ucat.
Well, honestly don't know. But neither of the 2 people I spoke to suggested that.
Both said they would use academic score (again no clarity how)
Both said they would use UCAT (not sure how)
Both said they would see PS (One of them said they would score it, other said not)
One said final offer would be based on academic, ucat, ps and mmi joint score, other said only on mmi results.
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Original post by akkanodia
Well, honestly don't know. But neither of the 2 people I spoke to suggested that.
Both said they would use academic score (again no clarity how)
Both said they would use UCAT (not sure how)
Both said they would see PS (One of them said they would score it, other said not)
One said final offer would be based on academic, ucat, ps and mmi joint score, other said only on mmi results.
Both said they would use academic score (again no clarity how)
Both said they would use UCAT (not sure how)
Both said they would see PS (One of them said they would score it, other said not)
One said final offer would be based on academic, ucat, ps and mmi joint score, other said only on mmi results.
Thank you yeah it is unclear. Let's see hopefully they will not be 100% ucat this year.
Will interviews be online?
Seen a lot of conflicting things on Leeds admissions for interview and this is what I heard from the head of admissions on Leeds open day:
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
(edited 6 months ago)
Original post by toothysmile
Seen a lot of conflicting things on Leeds admissions for interview and this is what I heard from the head of admissions on Leeds open day:
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
That is interesting it seems they will follow a similar scoring like cardiff uni. They weighted gcses a lot.
Original post by toothysmile
Seen a lot of conflicting things on Leeds admissions for interview and this is what I heard from the head of admissions on Leeds open day:
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
wow not giving marks for ps isn’t fair ! on their admissions policy it says about ps…i can see why they’re moving away from marking ps so heavily but at the same time it should still count towards something. it shows the candidates actually committed to dentistry! do you know if the talks were recorded would be interesting to see but glad they aren’t focused a lot of ucat. wonder how it’ll be for graduates i guess we already meet the academic requirements anyway
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Original post by applesandalevels
wow not giving marks for ps isn’t fair ! on their admissions policy it says about ps…i can see why they’re moving away from marking ps so heavily but at the same time it should still count towards something. it shows the candidates actually committed to dentistry! do you know if the talks were recorded would be interesting to see but glad they aren’t focused a lot of ucat. wonder how it’ll be for graduates i guess we already meet the academic requirements anyway
Yeah exactly i feel they will move away from the ps as more candidates will apply this year so they will have to find a way to eliminate people.
This is my Q too for graduates as i am applying with a phd and cardiff's scoring system is so unfair. They only score gcses, ucat and sjt.
Original post by toothysmile
Seen a lot of conflicting things on Leeds admissions for interview and this is what I heard from the head of admissions on Leeds open day:
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
- They will weigh GCSES more heavily than UCAT (unknown amounts)
- UCAT will amount to an unknown amount of points, banding may be used
- PS is used for screening, no marks
He said that basically because they don't the number and ability of applicants they will recieve they will kind of 'make up' the scoring to select the top 350 candidates
Also for 2022 482 applicants were interviewed for 549 applied (2023 entry is not audited so we don't know if it is 350, unless they said so on open day...) so any stats from previous admission cycles should not be greatly trusted as they did BMAT and pretty much interviewed everyone
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ucat_dentistry_5#incoming-2429447
Thanks, not sure if she meant for total or standard applicants.i assume it was standard as that was the context of discussion but not sure. Also cannot remember if she said last year or generally in the past, as it was a passing remark, to emphasise that numbers will increase significantly this year.
Interviews are online this year (somebody else asked above)
300-350 applicants to be called for interview (that was part of presentation and I didn't ask if she meant total or standard)
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Original post by Greekdentist
Yeah exactly i feel they will move away from the ps as more candidates will apply this year so they will have to find a way to eliminate people.
This is my Q too for graduates as i am applying with a phd and cardiff's scoring system is so unfair. They only score gcses, ucat and sjt.
This is my Q too for graduates as i am applying with a phd and cardiff's scoring system is so unfair. They only score gcses, ucat and sjt.
yeah it isn’t a true representation of a candidate not marking personal statements i just wish leeds were clear about now they’re applying i just hope somehow they do mark the ps
doesn’t the application policy talk about what you need for cardiff i think you’d be scored if you’ve got the 2:1 at bsc and a lebel/gcse equivalent not just gcses
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