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I am a year 11, I want to aim for Oxford or Cambridge and I want to take engineering. I want to take maths, further maths and physics. Is it a fair decision to take chemistry as my third? Or would it be too difficult and overwhelming? Thanks for your time and help.
Original post by SmileyCatty
I am a year 11, I want to aim for Oxford or Cambridge and I want to take engineering. I want to take maths, further maths and physics. Is it a fair decision to take chemistry as my third? Or would it be too difficult and overwhelming? Thanks for your time and help.

Hi @SmileyCatty,

Maths and Further Maths are two qualifications on their own, so I assume you meant taking chemistry as your fourth subject?

Nonetheless, many people would tell you that four A-Levels is a lot to bare and oftentimes most candidates drop their fourth subject after AS level due to the substantial workload. You could start off with the four subjects, and drop it if it gets too overwhelming. Obviously, each individual is unique in their own way as some do manage to juggle all four A-Levels- it really does just depend on the individual.

But according to what I've read online, Oxbridge also take into account and really value how much of a well-rounded individual you are. How you are as a person beyond your grades and studies. Perhaps you could consider sticking to three, and think about how you could pick up extra opportunities outside of college to polish up your CV. Competitions, volunteering etc... could also be great prompts for you to include in your personal statement for when the time comes for university applications. Doing extra outside of the classroom also demonstrates to Oxbridge your passion for the subject.

I think it's important to keep in mind that most Oxbridge applicants are already scoring the top grades, so it's valuable to think about how you can differentiate yourself from the other candidates by showing your depth of knowledge in other ways.

Hope this helps,
Danish
BCU Student Rep
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Original post by BCU Student Rep
Hi @SmileyCatty,

Maths and Further Maths are two qualifications on their own, so I assume you meant taking chemistry as your fourth subject?

Nonetheless, many people would tell you that four A-Levels is a lot to bare and oftentimes most candidates drop their fourth subject after AS level due to the substantial workload. You could start off with the four subjects, and drop it if it gets too overwhelming. Obviously, each individual is unique in their own way as some do manage to juggle all four A-Levels- it really does just depend on the individual.

But according to what I've read online, Oxbridge also take into account and really value how much of a well-rounded individual you are. How you are as a person beyond your grades and studies. Perhaps you could consider sticking to three, and think about how you could pick up extra opportunities outside of college to polish up your CV. Competitions, volunteering etc... could also be great prompts for you to include in your personal statement for when the time comes for university applications. Doing extra outside of the classroom also demonstrates to Oxbridge your passion for the subject.

I think it's important to keep in mind that most Oxbridge applicants are already scoring the top grades, so it's valuable to think about how you can differentiate yourself from the other candidates by showing your depth of knowledge in other ways.

Hope this helps,
Danish
BCU Student Rep

Dear BCU student rep,
Thanks for your help

But, from what I’ve read on Oxford statistics, many or most of the applicants have 4 A*s and most of the admissions have 4 A stars. Ergo, I believe that I must take 4 A levels in order to stay competitive

I don’t know why it types in italics

My predicament however, is what I should take as my third A level as in my school as Further Maths is strictly a 4th. Chemistry is a subject I have great interest in, but I am worried that I might be committing to too much work.

Are there any easy A levels or will is there no easy way out? ; meaning regardless of the A levels you take, taking 4 A levels exposes you to a high level of difficulty that is not possible to avoid.

Thank you and sorry for the last response,
Yours faithfully,
Smileycat789
Honestly, chemistry is a lot of work and most of my friends keep saying how compsci is a breeze but don't take my word on that. However, basically all successful engineering applicants to top colleges are doing 4 with Phys,Math,FM and either chem/compsci so don't worry too much:smile:
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Original post by thatoneadi
Honestly, chemistry is a lot of work and most of my friends keep saying how compsci is a breeze but don't take my word on that. However, basically all successful engineering applicants to top colleges are doing 4 with Phys,Math,FM and either chem/compsci so don't worry too much:smile:

Thanks thatoneadi
Original post by SmileyCatty
I am a year 11, I want to aim for Oxford or Cambridge and I want to take engineering. I want to take maths, further maths and physics. Is it a fair decision to take chemistry as my third? Or would it be too difficult and overwhelming? Thanks for your time and help.

For Cambridge, you will have Maths questions from the Further Maths specification often in the interviews.

Also, if you're doing Maths, Further Maths and Physics, you're expected to have a fourth A-Level as well, especially for Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial and Durham. 🙂
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Thanks much @thegeek888
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Original post by SmileyCatty
I am a year 11, I want to aim for Oxford or Cambridge and I want to take engineering. I want to take maths, further maths and physics. Is it a fair decision to take chemistry as my third? Or would it be too difficult and overwhelming? Thanks for your time and help.

It's is not advisable to take 4 A-levels, unless the 4th is FM, and your course requires or has a strong preference for FM, which Cambridge Engineering does. Your choices are therefore good.

From the Cambridge website:

Typical Engineering entrants (A Level and IB)
[start]For 2017, 2018 and 2019 entry, the majority of entrants from an A Level background achieved at least grades A star A star A star (87% of entrants). All of these successful applicants took Mathematics, 95% took Further Mathematics, 98% took Physics and 62% took Chemistry[/start]

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