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Non-Accredited Biomedicine degree

I’m currently in my first year of undergraduate Biomedicine at UEA, just started in September of 2023, come to find out it is not accredited by the IBMS and I have just found out about the massive costs of the top-up modules I will very likely need to undertake. Initially after finding out about the lack of accreditation I didn’t think it’d be a big deal, especially after speaking to my lecturers who all assured me that it’s a straightforward process, but after reading about the costs and the hassle i’ve decided that transferring universities might be a better option for me. I was wondering how I should go about this in terms of student finance, and the whole process of transferring because I believe i’d have to transfer onto a Biomedical science course as a first year again in order to not risk having to do any top-up modules.

Thanks in advance.
I can confirm that having to take the top-up modules is hassling indeed. Just a note though, you only need IBMS accreditation if you are planning to work in the NHS or in a hospital. You don't need it for research or industry. As for the transfer process, I will defer to @PQ and @Admit-One, who are much more knowledgeable about this than I am.
Original post by sleep_supremacy
I can confirm that having to take the top-up modules is hassling indeed. Just a note though, you only need IBMS accreditation if you are planning to work in the NHS or in a hospital. You don't need it for research or industry. As for the transfer process, I will defer to @PQ and @Admit-One, who are much more knowledgeable about this than I am.

Thank you for this, my only issue is i’m not sure how to find places where I don’t need accreditation. My first thought was always NHS as a kind of easier starting point, however, if there is other places I can work without the accreditation i’d be really interested in finding out more if you have any more info regarding this?
Accreditation isn't my area of expertise but if you do find a course and are considering applying for year 2 entry, then the Transfer FAQ is a useful source of info about the process.

If you end up applying for year 1 entry, then it won't be too different from your initial UCAs application. The chief differences would be that you would most likely be applying independently rather than with a buzzword, that you'd have to list the incomplete uni study in your education history, and you'd need to provide a reference from your current uni, (not usually a problem).
So, sleep_supremacy is mostly right. A biomedical science degree doesn't make you a biomedical scientist (odd, but true). Biomedical scientist is a protected title in the UK. It means that calling yourself a biomedical scientist and/or doing the job without being on the Health and Care Professions Council (HCPC) register is against the law.

To get HCPC registration as a biomedical scientist you need a certificate of competence from the IBMS. Which means you need an IBMS accredited degree or a degree they have signed off on. I've never (in almost 20 years) seen a case where the IBMS signs off on a non-accredited degree without top-up modules.

If you think (or know) that you want to be a biomedical scientist as a profession, then switching now seems more sensible. If you think you'll want to go into research / graduate entry schemes / industry etc, then it's not an issue.

Top-up modules is a relatively straight forward process - you apply to the IBMS, map your degree against their requirements, and then do the modules they require to get accreditation. However, you then have to study in your own time, and pay for it when student loans are no longer available. Looking at the University of Westminster, it's currently £1500/module which is a lot.

Depending on your current course, you may not have to do the whole first year again. I'd look at what they call 'accreditation of prior learning' and you may need to spend 3 years, but not do it full time in the first one. (Then I would recommend finding your local hospital and applying to their staff bank as a medical laboratory assistant so you can get work experience and be paid for it.)
Original post by HealthcareSci
So, sleep_supremacy is mostly right. A biomedical science degree doesn't make you a biomedical scientist (odd, but true). Biomedical scientist is a protected title in the UK. It means that calling yourself a biomedical scientist and/or doing the job without being on the Health and Care Professions Council (HCPC) register is against the law.

To get HCPC registration as a biomedical scientist you need a certificate of competence from the IBMS. Which means you need an IBMS accredited degree or a degree they have signed off on. I've never (in almost 20 years) seen a case where the IBMS signs off on a non-accredited degree without top-up modules.

If you think (or know) that you want to be a biomedical scientist as a profession, then switching now seems more sensible. If you think you'll want to go into research / graduate entry schemes / industry etc, then it's not an issue.

Top-up modules is a relatively straight forward process - you apply to the IBMS, map your degree against their requirements, and then do the modules they require to get accreditation. However, you then have to study in your own time, and pay for it when student loans are no longer available. Looking at the University of Westminster, it's currently £1500/module which is a lot.

Depending on your current course, you may not have to do the whole first year again. I'd look at what they call 'accreditation of prior learning' and you may need to spend 3 years, but not do it full time in the first one. (Then I would recommend finding your local hospital and applying to their staff bank as a medical laboratory assistant so you can get work experience and be paid for it.)

Thank you so much for this, I feel like I’ve just had the worst anxiety about it and all of a sudden been thrown completely off track realising the reality of studying this course. I’ve now been looking into the STP and considering possibly going down the clinical scientist route if I was to remain study of the non-accredited course at UEA, but I know this would be super competitive.

I have been told by lecturers that they are working on having an additional Biomedical science course approved, which would be an accredited version of the course I’m currently studying. I’m definitely still very confused but feel as though I need to make a decision quickly considering it’s quite late into the academic year and I’m not sure if another university would consider my transfer at a later point. But ideally i’d like to wait until UEA get a decision on implementing an accredited version of the Biomedical science course. I’m so lost🫣🫣🫣
Original post by korneliarenata
I’m currently in my first year of undergraduate Biomedicine at UEA, just started in September of 2023, come to find out it is not accredited by the IBMS and I have just found out about the massive costs of the top-up modules I will very likely need to undertake. Initially after finding out about the lack of accreditation I didn’t think it’d be a big deal, especially after speaking to my lecturers who all assured me that it’s a straightforward process, but after reading about the costs and the hassle i’ve decided that transferring universities might be a better option for me. I was wondering how I should go about this in terms of student finance, and the whole process of transferring because I believe i’d have to transfer onto a Biomedical science course as a first year again in order to not risk having to do any top-up modules.

Thanks in advance.

Hi there,

I've done my undergraduate degree in Biomedical Science at Middlesex University London (which is accredited). However, I've ended up pursuing research and am currently doing a PhD at UEA. I did not need to use the accreditation at all. Whilst I understand you might be tempted to transfer to a university with accreditation, did you consider all your job opportunities? In practice, only biomedical scientists need to be accredited, any other jobs do not. If you've got a preference to work for the NHS, you can always apply for the STP training, which will help you work for the HCPC registration. In fact, it is during the STP that you build your portfolio and apply for the registration. To apply for STP you dont need to have an accredited course. You can find more information here: https://nshcs.hee.nhs.uk/programmes/stp/

Best,
Daniel
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Original post by korneliarenata
Thank you so much for this, I feel like I’ve just had the worst anxiety about it and all of a sudden been thrown completely off track realising the reality of studying this course. I’ve now been looking into the STP and considering possibly going down the clinical scientist route if I was to remain study of the non-accredited course at UEA, but I know this would be super competitive.

I have been told by lecturers that they are working on having an additional Biomedical science course approved, which would be an accredited version of the course I’m currently studying. I’m definitely still very confused but feel as though I need to make a decision quickly considering it’s quite late into the academic year and I’m not sure if another university would consider my transfer at a later point. But ideally i’d like to wait until UEA get a decision on implementing an accredited version of the Biomedical science course. I’m so lost🫣🫣🫣


So, if they are 'working' on getting a course approved, it could mean that they will be ready for September, it could be several years. I wouldn't hold out for it when you are considering your own future.

Also, to be quite blunt - your university lecturers are not giving you impartial advice. They (and the UEA rep above) are correct, you can convert later (at your own cost) or go down other routes. But, your university lecturers have a vested interest in you staying because if you leave it's unlikely the year 2 space, and the £9k that you pay will be replaced.

If you decide the right thing for you is to stay, then fantastic. But do it because it's right for you and get properly impartial advice from careers advisors or similar.

The STP is a route, but clinical scientists and biomedical scientists are not the same role (I am both) and so it's not a replacement. Biomedicine also isn't the best degree to get onto the STP. It's doable, but harder and some STP specialisms are very competitive.

Biomedical science is a weird one because most other healthcare related degrees don't have non-accredited options and they all lead to directly to professional registration. But yes. I would have a look at different career paths and see which one you are interested in going for. Then decide if switching and having the IBMS accreditation option is needed for you.

But - to push again - get that advice for you. Not from those who make money out of you. Because you'r the one who has to live with the outcome.
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Original post by korneliarenata
I’m currently in my first year of undergraduate Biomedicine at UEA, just started in September of 2023, come to find out it is not accredited by the IBMS and I have just found out about the massive costs of the top-up modules I will very likely need to undertake. Initially after finding out about the lack of accreditation I didn’t think it’d be a big deal, especially after speaking to my lecturers who all assured me that it’s a straightforward process, but after reading about the costs and the hassle i’ve decided that transferring universities might be a better option for me. I was wondering how I should go about this in terms of student finance, and the whole process of transferring because I believe i’d have to transfer onto a Biomedical science course as a first year again in order to not risk having to do any top-up modules.

Thanks in advance.

Can you tell me about your interview?before you accept ?
Original post by Larin23
Can you tell me about your interview?before you accept ?

I didn’t actually do an interview! I did apply quite late though because I was going to do a gap year but then decided I did actually want to go to uni this year, so I’m not sure if that has anything to do with it
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Original post by HealthcareSci
So, if they are 'working' on getting a course approved, it could mean that they will be ready for September, it could be several years. I wouldn't hold out for it when you are considering your own future.

Also, to be quite blunt - your university lecturers are not giving you impartial advice. They (and the UEA rep above) are correct, you can convert later (at your own cost) or go down other routes. But, your university lecturers have a vested interest in you staying because if you leave it's unlikely the year 2 space, and the £9k that you pay will be replaced.

If you decide the right thing for you is to stay, then fantastic. But do it because it's right for you and get properly impartial advice from careers advisors or similar.

The STP is a route, but clinical scientists and biomedical scientists are not the same role (I am both) and so it's not a replacement. Biomedicine also isn't the best degree to get onto the STP. It's doable, but harder and some STP specialisms are very competitive.

Biomedical science is a weird one because most other healthcare related degrees don't have non-accredited options and they all lead to directly to professional registration. But yes. I would have a look at different career paths and see which one you are interested in going for. Then decide if switching and having the IBMS accreditation option is needed for you.

But - to push again - get that advice for you. Not from those who make money out of you. Because you'r the one who has to live with the outcome.

Thanks so much for all the info. I’ve booked in a guidance meeting with a careers advisor and hopefully will get this all sorted shortly. I’m feeling much more confident now and I know what kind of questions I’ll ask😊
Original post by korneliarenata
Thanks so much for all the info. I’ve booked in a guidance meeting with a careers advisor and hopefully will get this all sorted shortly. I’m feeling much more confident now and I know what kind of questions I’ll ask😊


Good luck! I hope it all works out.

For me, all other things being equal I would go for the IBMS accreditation. Because then you have the option. Yes, like the UEA rep mentioned, you don't have to use it, but for me it's better to have the choice.

But it's all about what you need going forward. 😀

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