NHS trust says transgender milk just as good for babies as normal milk

I was going to ask this (not that this makes companies exempt or anything but this is what I wanted to point out).

In the grand scheme of things I couldn't care less.

When you consider the number of parents that might opt to do this it's very much a storm in a teacup "world gone mad" emotive headline. In reality it might be handful of people in the UK and as we've established there's no harm, so meh, crack on.

Absence of harm to the child has not been established by a reliable body of evidence.

Absence of harm to the child has not been established by a reliable body of evidence.

This NHS trust seems to believe otherwise unless I’m wrong here.

The topic by its nature enters Forstater territory, because the proposition that men can safely breastfeed a child is based on ideology, not science and those who prefer science to ideology must be free to say so.

One NHS trust taking an outlier position does not indicate a body of evidence.

Let's have a discussion on the quality of the science then

I disagree with the idea that assigned sex at birth=gender (despite it being true for the majority of the population) as transgender men and women exist.

I also never argued against the idea that sex is biological (other than in cases of being intersex or the fact that you can now apparently change your legal sex), I agree with that, it’s gender where I wouldn’t say that it’s biological.

That's a short discussion. There is no evidence base establishing that medically induced lactation in men provides adequate nutrition for a child and does not have unacceptable side effects on the child.

Ah my reply to your post was more in keeping using it as a starting point to crystallize some thoughts really about how science is simply a construct to view the natural world. Even long accepted "truths" like biological sex is binary is a best guess human understanding of how the whole thing works. There's very good evidence and it is very logical of course but nonetheless a human concept. Still it's a view I subscribe to based on study and understanding of human biology and I find it unsettling that there are some who are trying to rewrite a fundamental principle. Gender though is a much more fluid concept. In the context of this thread, I don't distinguish between male/female production of breast milk. The underlying biological structures are the same. In fact, one could argue that cow's milk used in infant milk production is a much more "alien" milk than milk from male breast tissue.

Then you have made your point and do not need to participate in this discussion any longer.

This is a discussion forum, I remind you of the legal risk which TSR undertakes if it censors legally protected views.

That's a short discussion. There is no evidence base establishing that medically induced lactation in men provides adequate nutrition for a child and does not have unacceptable side effects on the child.

That's a short discussion. There is no evidence base establishing that medically induced lactation in men provides adequate nutrition for a child and does not have unacceptable side effects on the child.

One child put at risk of poor nutrition or other harm is one too many. In medicine, the maxim "first, do no harm" ought to be the starting point. A child's health is more important than validation for a man who wishes that he was a woman.

But not how things work though. Eg. Vaping. Introduced it with little or no understanding of the long term effects, studied it later when there was enough data.

Given that the OP is such a fringe scenario you’d struggle to get enough data for a meaningful study.

Spend the time and money elsewhere if we care about harm.

Incidentally on vaping
https://evidence.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/EVIDoa2300229
Not good,not good at all.