The BNP/EU Election Discussion Thread

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Why did people really vote BNP?

Protest Vote13%

Ignorance43%

Social Factors7%

Economic Factors6%

Immigration27%

Other4%

Total votes: 296

necessarily benevolent

14

Why do I come on here every day to see thread after thread concerning the BN bloody P? God, it's not like they're a new entity. Seriously, I'm doing the typical TSR thing by saying "use the bloody search function". Who else is getting bored of looking at the 'Most recent articles' stuff and seeing 'BNP' about 15 times a day?

Reply 1

Kid Yamamoto

TSR members are innately attention whores. BNP is a very controversial party.

Starting threads on the subject would be very antagonising and will likely lead to a large thread with multiple pages.

Reply 2

CHAMON

11

I agree. Same with Muslim threads. And Jew/Israel/Pali

Reply 3

emmarainbow

12

And the gay ones. *sigh*

Reply 4

ScottScott

6

Yeh, gets very samey doesn't it?

Reply 5

username251676

*EDIT* this appears to have been changed into 'The BNP/EU election discussion thread, please use it to discuss any general BNP topics. My original question is below but I believe that debate died long ago

Do the BNP they have the potential to be worse than the Nazis, in a hypothetical situation in which they were elected?

See this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7842826632184074561&ei=_MkXSvqjKc-w-AbR85iYCw&q=young+nazi+and+proud

A variety of recent BNP posts on TSR inevitably fuelled by a depression got me thinking. The BNP, as it is now even in it's camouflaged-I'm-a-real-and-fair-political-party state, is perhaps more racist and against foreigners than the Nazi party was during its rise to power - it did not gain power through extremism, but rather through mass appeal (albeit aided by a bit of political engineering).

This is perhaps because the central themes of the Nazi party, in its attempts to attract members, were the failure of democracy and an exploitation of fears of communism.

If a party based primarily around unification and non-democratic ideology rather than the punishment of racial minorities was capable of the largest and most horrifying racial massacre in history, then what would the BNP be capable of, as party who's current subdued origins which attempt to appeal to the masses already focus entirely on the exclusion of racial minorities, as a party who have practically no policies which do not feature a direct attack on racial minorities, foreigners, and immigration, and as a party who already echo the nature of fully developed Nazism, calling for corporal punishment, strict uniforms and the re-introduction of frequent 'competitive sports'?

*Edit* This is hypothetical, in the unlikely event that the BNP come to power, of course, and had free reign to the extent that the Nazis did.

Reply 6

rockrunride

19

Possibly, but to be honest their outward promotion on racial policy makes them less likely to gain office than the Nazis.

Reply 7

Hydrargyros

HexagonalBolts

the largest and most horrifying racial massacre in history

Are you sure you are not talking about communism?

Reply 8

lmfao

2

Is the BNP worse than the Nazis?

The Nazi regime began World War Two. The Nazi regime invaded many countries. The Nazi regime murdered millions of Jews.

What do you think? Moron.

Reply 9

Erik.

14

I think a more pertinent question is are they worse than the SWP ?

Reply 10

shark67

13

ehud olmerts gang is worse than both

Reply 11

Officer Dibble

11

I really wish everyone would just shut up about how terrible the BNP are tbh. Ok, we all know already that they are a bunch of racists, but the fact is that they are a joke of a party and will never gain any real power over this country

Reply 12

username196545

19

Hydrargyros

Are you sure you are not talking about communism?

Since when did Communism commit racial massacres? Stalin persecuted the Kulaks, the Khmer Rouge persecuted the middle classes and so on.

Reply 13

Cupid Stunt

15

BNP would never have to power to achieve what Nazi's did. I don't think 'Achieve' is the right word, I just got out of bed (brain slow) and it was what Hitler set out to do so I guess it's an achievement in his eyes.

Reply 14

PassoverPrince

Surely if they did gain power, they couldn't commit massacres anyway? This is Britain we are talking about, no one would let it happen, would they?

Reply 15

username196545

19

shark67

ehud olmerts gang is worse than both

I would say Yisrael Beiteinu was the worst party, and Olmert doesn't have a party muggins.

Reply 16

flugelr

19

Yes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/5336891/BNP-war-hero-Johnson-Beharry-only-got-medal-because-he-is-black.html

Reply 17

HEJ92

12

No. Never will be.
BNP are just portrayed to be terrible, yeh some of their views are extreme but they aren't really that bad.

Reply 18

Fated

Bubbles*de*Milo

Since when did Communism commit racial massacres? Stalin persecuted the Kulaks, the Khmer Rouge persecuted the middle classes and so on.

So you're saying that because the National Socialists killed 6 million Jews, as a result of their race, this is somehow worse than the more numerous massacres of Stalin and the Khmer Rouge.

Somehow, I don't really see that as particularly sensible.

Additionally, have any of you ever read the BNP's manifesto? I have, and it reads very well indeed, and I can understand why so many White people in the UK are going to be voting for them on June 4th.

Reply 19

username196545

19

HexagonalBolts

If a party based primarily around unification and non-democratic ideology rather than the punishment of racial minorities was capable of the largest and most horrifying racial massacre in history, then what would the BNP be capable of, as party who's current subdued origins which attempt to appeal to the masses already focus entirely on the exclusion of racial minorities, as a party who have practically no policies which do not feature a direct attack on racial minorities, foreigners

It's true, the Nazis came to power on the back of the Treaty of Versailles being a mash up, and the Weimar gov being weak. However, it would be erroneous to compare the weaknesses of the Weimar government with the Labour one. We're not quite facing hyperinflation on a massive scale are we? Plus the Nazis simply used latent racism that was already there, and turned it into a cause. With the BNP though, the majority of the country is not racist in the first place and they'd have to fabricate it.

already echo the nature of fully developed Nazism, calling for corporal punishment, strict uniforms and the re-introduction of frequent 'competitive sports'?

Just because these were utilised by the Nazis, doesn't make them bad or evil. The Nazis used films and books and leaflets to spread their messages, that doesn't make them bad in themselves.

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