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I'm emigrating: screw this country [RANT]

Reply 80

Bagration

OP

18

JMonkey

No true Scotsman fallacy anyone.

Didn't you just use that in the other thread where you were saying that nobody would become a Doctor if they didn't want to help people?

JMonkey

Actually the reason why we live under a socialistish system is because of the Englishmen who fought for equality. Were they not patriots too? Because they saw the feudal nature of society as backward?

Actually that's the biggest load of baloney I've ever heard.

Reply 81

Dan1607

Bagration

Nobody who would desire to live in England in its present state of affairs should dare to call themselves a patriot. The English patriots who made this land once great would be launching a revolution if they were around today.

Absolutely right.
The English lost their respect soon after the Second World War.
Today, there is nothing proud about being english.

Reply 82

Snuzz

Yeah, I had a severe urge to move to Hawaii for a while, to be around some other Eurasians and be in a place where Asian culture was more prominent and less of some sort of minority eccentricity. My complete absence of patriotism didn't help much either.

I sort of superimposed in my mind that I was more Chinese than English, despite never having visited China (I'm half Malaysian Chinese). This led me to over emphasise the problems with England and downplay all the good stuff. However, nowadays my urge to move isn't as great as it once was.

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of **** wrong with the UK - although the weather to be honest, is my most hated. And I still plan to move one day but I'm not going to slag England off when I get there.

Although I obviously don't know about you, for me it was mainly an identity thing and from your picture you look Eurasian (Edit: just read you were half Malaysian, damn I'm good) so I just assumed my words would carry some relevance. I'm not going to talk you into staying/leaving. Each country has a different worth to different people.

And I should add if you plan to move to Malaysia and your not a Muslim, they have mosques that wake you up at ungodly hours every night. Well, at least they did near my Uncles house in Ipoh.

Reply 83

dzeh

10

another whiney faggot, FO the sooner the better

Reply 84

KwungSun

13

I think the biggest problem in the UK is that everyone thinks it's crap, which invariably results in it actually being crap. Somewhere in the 50s or 60s there occurred some cataclysmic event that sent the UK in a downward spiral of self-fulfilling pessimism that it hasn't been able to break from ever since.

Reply 85

Norfolkadam

18

Bagration

I bet you weren't saying that when gay Englishmen were complaining about homosexuals being sent to asylums though, were you?

None of them asked to go though did they? If you were in a bar and you thought it was quite nice but there was a guy stood beside you whinging about how awful it is and how much they want to go somewhere else then wouldn't you want them to leavE?

Reply 86

Bagration

OP

18

KwungSun

I think the biggest problem in the UK is that everyone thinks it's crap, which invariably results in it actually being crap. Somewhere in the 50s or 60s there occurred some cataclysmic event that sent the UK in a downward spiral of self-fulfilling pessimism that it hasn't been able to break from ever since.

Yeah, it was the misery caused by Socialism.

Reply 87

Seven_Three

8

I fancy Austria personally, Isle of man looks ok, or possibly some sort of tax haven. UK isn't bad per se or relatively but we've got the worst end of alot of things; Popular corporate culture (pop music, fashion mags), crumbling social values and society, high taxation, heavy surveilence, high immigration, basically a one party center-left system and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, anytime soon. Saying that, we are still rich compared to other countries. I think the important and difficult thing is to find somewhere that you feel at home.

Reply 88

Feral Beast

9

The only Asian country worth living in is Japan IMO.

Reply 89

Bagration

OP

18

Norfolkadam

None of them asked to go though did they? If you were in a bar and you thought it was quite nice but there was a guy stood beside you whinging about how awful it is and how much they want to go somewhere else then wouldn't you want them to leavE?

A few things wrong with your analogy:

1. The bar is not sovereign.
2. The man was not born in the bar.
3. It is not significantly difficult to leave or enter the bar.
4. The man is not a subject of the owner of the bar.

Reply 90

RyanT

15

Bagration

Nobody who would desire to live in England in its present state of affairs should dare to call themselves a patriot. The English patriots who made this land once great would be launching a revolution if they were around today.

This I agree with, although I would urge caution in idealising other countries.

No need to drag Bagration down on this - he is making some very valid points although I'm surprised at some of the things he left out :hmmm:

, like paying taxes to fund the refugee capital of the world. Singapore is a strange choice given your objections however, I heard Australia was putting up the barricades to immigrants - malaysia is a very strange choice. I suspect both these countries will disappoint you in different ways to the UK - there's better places with superior opportunities to emigrate to.

Reply 91

Edenr

14

Baggo, you know it's all about Switzerland.

Reply 92

JMonkey

3

Bagration

Didn't you just use that in the other thread where you were saying that nobody would become a Doctor if they didn't want to help people?

Nope because that would be a stereotype and I'm not stupid enough to make logical fallacies that absurd.

Actually that's the biggest load of baloney I've ever heard.

I changed it to classist, and I stand by that. I presume you think the labour party came about because of magic. The national health service and child labour laws, and school for everyone came about because of the slaying of the libertarian dragon by the magical proletariate/other class Knights.

If you really have this attitude then leave and frankly don't let the door hit you on the way out eh.

Reply 93

username196545

19

I quite like this thread. It's interesting. OP is lucky, I have the choice between living here, and living in...Israel.

Reply 94

Bagration

OP

18

Edenr

Baggo, you know it's all about Switzerland.

Switzerland I have heard is very hard to immigrate to, plus I'd have to learn another language very quickly, but it's on the list.

Reply 95

142838

Bagration

So I think that I will quite possibly get the hell out of this country after finishing university - probably to Singapore or M'sia.

Wtf is the point staying in this country - the only positive advantages of it are that books and high quality clothes are easier to come by - and that my friends and family are here.

On the other hand, it is ****:
- We are ruled by either right wing social democrats or left wing social democrats
- Extremely high taxation
- Welfare Police State
- A raped countryside
- Loads of ****** uneventful boring dilapidated grey cities
- A flexible class system
- Encroaching European political power
- Recession!
- High prices
- Too many ******* laws on literally everything
- A populist intellectual atmosphere
- Warmongering politicians
- A great history that is every day being devalued and destroyed

I can't be arsed to think up more.

The legacy of the British rule overseas is economic prosperity, fair government, and the rule of law. Which is basically the opposite of how the British presently rule themselves.

I see no reason why I ought to stay in this country or what it has to offer.

Rant over.

At least it's rule of law rather than religion.