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Reply 40
randomgirl
I dunno.

I guess it must be quite effective seeing as unruly kids don't like being at school normally, so they will hate anything extra-curricular.

I don't know much about naughty children to be honest, I was an :angel: and my school didn't have many unruly kids. I don't know what things are like inside a mixed comp for instance :o: I was at an all girls grammar, so no naughty boys :wink:


It was funny at the school I went to. Their idea of punishment was to make people go home early, i.e. not allowing them to stay for an extra hour and a half after school! They also wrote a note to parents, which wasn't fair because the parental punishments varied dramatically depending on who got into trouble. Could be anything from totally ignoring it to beating them.
Mr Snips
What if they refuse?

Lock them up. :awesome: The worst punishment I had as a kid was being forced to stare at the wall. Sounds pathetic but I hated it... kids can't keep still.
Reply 42
Freckely Tim
And physically bullying other children (which could be punishable by cane) isn't? When we talk of abuse, aren't we usually saying that the vicitm is innocent and has done nothing to deserve it?

I'm sorry, but to some people sitting in an empty classroom for an hour just isn't enough of a deterrent. Caning would not only provide a useful deterrent, it would also save money- you wouln't have to pay so many teachers overtime for supervising detentions. Obviously you would only do it for very serious offences like physical abuse of other students.

Crikey I sound like an old man- but I think it's at least worth a trial or something. problem is of course that if you DID come up with a system, it would be very difficult to police, and a minority of teachers would inevitably abuse it/break the rules and it would be banned again in a blink of an eye on the basis of one case which would be plastered all over the media.

Also this country is too full of injury lawyers, child welfare specialists /campaigners for it to actually happen. Chances are though, that if they actually had to spend more than a few minutes in the company of the tearaways the system might deter, they'd change their minds pretty quickly.


So, bullying warrents physical punishment? I can't see how this validates any moral.
Reply 43
randomgirl
I dunno.

I guess it must be quite effective seeing as unruly kids don't like being at school normally, so they will hate anything extra-curricular.

I don't know much about naughty children to be honest, I was an :angel: and my school didn't have many unruly kids. I don't know what things are like inside a mixed comp for instance :o: I was at an all girls grammar, so no naughty boys :wink:

I'm in a sixth form that is unfortunately associated with a mixed comp. Some students have no desire whatsoever to learn anything. Detentions are achievements, with double points for making teachers angry.

Maybe the cane is not the answer, but I agree that things need to be stricter.
Reply 44
I can just imagine this:

Teacher - "You're getting caned"
Pupil - "Yea, well blud your getting stabbed by me uncle innit"
Reply 45
snowyowl
This. How do you expect children to learn that it's wrong to hit people if teachers are using this as a method of control?

I never said that. Hitting should not be tolerated at all. But physical-like abuse is just as hypocritical. They should be banned from that school if bullies are doing that, and should not be tolerated.
Reply 46
Nick_000
I can just imagine this:

Teacher - "You're getting caned"
Pupil - "Yea, well blud your getting stabbed by me uncle innit"

very good point
Reply 47
The thing is though, with all the "scallies" and "chavs" around, if they got caned, or hit for being a nuisance in school, who is to say they wont hang around after school with a gang of mates to effectively almost kill the teacher who did it? Teachers would get more abuse outside of school if they reintroduced the cane.

Its a 'nice' idea, but its too dangerous for the teachers now. Plus parents aren't even allowed to leave a mark when they hit their children, what makes you think they will allow teahcers to do so?
Reply 48
I don't think I would have been caned anyway. Like I said or girls it would probably be more of a smacked bottom. I would except being smacked by the headmaster if I knew I'd broken the rules and so deserved it.
I don't think it should be brought back, seems too primitive for this day and age. However, I do think it's wrong that if a child should physically attack a teacher, the teacher is essentially defenceless in that they can't hit back because then they would be seen as the one in the wrong.
Leaving age should be lowered, get the little ***** out quicker.
Reply 50
moneyfaery
Lock them up. :awesome: The worst punishment I had as a kid was being forced to stare at the wall. Sounds pathetic but I hated it... kids can't keep still.

Oh my lord I hated that.

Go stand in the corner and face the wall.
Or at playtime in Primary School, when you had to stand by the wall and watch everyone play :frown:
Reply 51
Yep, without a doubt.

My Dad caned me at home when I was younger, it did me no harm (well at the time I did) and certainly made me behave!

The worst was when he'd make me go out and get a thin bendy branch from the garden haha, soon learned my lesson.
Reply 52
not before i leave it shouldn't!!

my arse would be so sore..ouch..
Reply 53
I agree totally, would stop little ***** acting like they can do anything they want.
Reply 54
As I said in a recent thread on this topic (ever heard of the search function OP?) in my opinion it should be brought back, because discipline has just gone so far downhill in modern society.

See: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=18204101
Reply 55
Nick_000
I can just imagine this:

Teacher - "You're getting caned"
Pupil - "Yea, well blud your getting stabbed by me uncle innit"



lol - i think shanked = stabbed in chav talk

but i think that it would definitley be something along those lines :yes:
Reply 56
I say parents should bring the cane back.
Reply 57
truthandtragedy
I don't think it should be brought back, seems too primitive for this day and age. However, I do think it's wrong that if a child should physically attack a teacher, the teacher is essentially defenceless in that they can't hit back because then they would be seen as the one in the wrong.
Leaving age should be lowered, get the little ***** out quicker.
I think your sig is suggesting it should be brought back. Look! He's asking for it! :p:
Reply 58
EGjeff
Yep, without a doubt.

My Dad caned me at home when I was younger, it did me no harm (well at the time I did) and certainly made me behave!

The worst was when he'd make me go out and get a thin bendy branch from the garden haha, soon learned my lesson.
Haha! We had to do that too. Go find your own cane. Or 'go get my slipper so I can smack you!' and we do! Makes no sense! :laugh:
Reply 59
Clearly, waterboarding is the solution.

:awesome:

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