The Manchester United Thread XIII

I reckon youll get Shaw, Carvalho, Cavani (lol) then maybe some CM but not the calibre you are mentioning.

Fabregas wont move. also Arsenal have first refusal with £25m which Arsene would probably lap up asap.
Kroos wont move.
Vidal is going to be in high demand so if you get him you will pay high, and probably wont get some other targets.
Greizzman will go to PSG sadly (would like him too tbh)
Reus isnt leaving BVB for anyone this year (Gotze comments were fake).

Cavani and Shaw will eat in to your budget so bad, thats potentially £85m as PSG wont let go for less than they got him. Plus offering Shaw 100k so you probably have to offer Cavani much more. Also you wont be able to get all of your deadwood in 1 summer season, esp with time constraints with World cup etc.

If you dont get Cavani then youll probably instead get Vidal and/or Garay.

I honestly don't think Shaw, Carvalho, Garay, Fabregas/Kroos/Vidal and Reus/Greizman/Cavani (god love us) is that unrealistic.

Shaw and Carvalho have been rumoured to being close for a very long time.

Garay definitely achievable and not stupid money.

World class CM, much more difficult. But I think with enough money one of the above could be achievable. Definitely the hardest and most unlikely of the 5. I have hope though. We need to do something in that position finally.

Lastly if the press are to be believed we are very keen on Cavani. Hope it's *******s but believe a quality winger in Moura (unrealistic) or Greizman (more realistic) is needed and will happen if we spend the money and go all out.

Very much depends on the club, the money we will spend and the prospects were offering. Hopefully Van Gaal gives the manager appeal.

These things need to happen, or we will get massively left behind.

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I honestly don't think Shaw, Carvalho, Garay, Fabregas/Kroos/Vidal and Reus/Greizman/Cavani (god love us) is that unrealistic.

We should just get the two benders

I honestly think we'll somewhere around 100m especially with so many high earners off the list (Evra, Vida, Rio).

Shaw and Carvalho have been rumoured to being close for a very long time.

I reckon youll get Shaw, Carvalho, Cavani (lol) then maybe some CM but not the calibre you are mentioning.

If you dont get Cavani then youll probably instead get Vidal and/or Garay.

nor arsenal who have the best midfield in the BPL

OZIL Carzola ramsey wilshere the-ox

I've got to be honest. I'm getting very worried by United. I'm worried Giggs will get the job. People are silly, they'll get carried away. Reality is we should be beating teams like Norwich anyway. Moyes beat them 4-0 and he beat Newcastle 4-0. We should also be beating Sunderland, Hull and Southampton regardless of who the manager is. Giggs doesn't have the experience for the job, he won't be able to attract top players and he'll find it hard making the iron fist decisions required, telling his former team mates that they aren't good enough anymore which is what is required of a few of them. You need a football version of Margaret Thatcher to tell it as it is. We need the big Dutch bloke. It would be a monumental error to appoint Giggs. He won't win the big games. Delighted to have him for next three, but any more is silly. Van Gaal needs to be done this week before this movement carries pace.

Doubt we'll get Cavani unless Rooney goes the other way.

Agree we won't get fabregas, reus, or kroos coming.

I think we have a decent shot at Di Maria. Vidal is unlikely, but a possibility. Possibility on Garay. Apparently Sead Kolasinac is an almost done deal.

Shaw, Garay, Vidal, Di Maria, Kolasinac ALONE would significantly strengthen our squad. And I don't think that's unrealistic tbh.

If we signed the above this Summer I would get Ed Woodwards name tattooed on me.

Vidal and Di Maria but Di maria wouldn't leave surely?

DDG
Rafa Jones Garay Shaw
Carvalho Vidal
Di Maria Mata Kagawa
RVP



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Di Maria is pretty marginalised I think. Bale and Ronaldo will always outshine him there. And Isco looks very very good. I've always had the impression he'd move [though qua probably knows more]

Not sure about carvalho, [not seen him play enough, and rumours have gone quiet since moist left] but I'm holding you to that tattoo if we get vidal and di maria

Kolasinac looks good btw, from what I've seen of him. I'd be quite happy to get rid of rooney for cavani too; cavani is a quality striker, despite what's gone down at PSG. (I keep going on about rooney to psg because apparently Zlatan has been crying for months that he wants him there)

I haven't even included him in the team tbh because he's not necessary and would rather get rid of him because of the wages and keep RVP who I especially think would florish again under Van Gaal.

If they want to do a Rooney Cavani swap as you said again fine by me, as long as we don't offer loads of extra cash as well. I'm talking Rooney + 10 million max. Other than that I definitely hope we don't get Cavani if Rooney is staying.

Carvalho has still been mentioned in a few reports, he was meant to be pretty much a done deal before Moyes was sacked so really hope when the window opens we tie it up and that the reason we haven't heard much more is because it's verbally agreed until the window opens. From what I have seen and heard he would be amazing for us. I posted a while info I got from a Sporting Lisbon fan which I'll try and find, he's one if not the most well thought of players in Portugal right now. Fingers crossed we get him.

I will keep my word about the tattoo but I'm afraid it will have to go on one of my butt cheeks as tbh I can't have too many people looking at let's be fair

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My concerns about RVP is he's 31 now, and pretty injury prone. I also don't see how to neatly fit rooney, rvp and mata into the same team. Cavani would balance the squad nicely if we got rid of rooney, not to mention the fact it'd mean Chelsea and Arsenal not neither player. I literally shudder to think how good Rooney would be under mourinho, in that system, and I don't particularly want to see Cavani at either club.

Purely hypothetical but how would you/others feel about a Rooney/Cavani swap deal. Obviously keeps both players away from Arsenal/Chelsea and means PSG can get rid of Cavani with out taking quite as large a financial hit.

Personally I'm not big on signing another forward regardless and if we do I want it to be Ciro Immobile and not just because he has an awesome name.

Also wouldn't mind us picking up Maxime Gonalons from Lyon. Not an out an out world beater but cover for Carricks position has been desperately needed for a while now and he cab do that. He'd also be available on a free as I think his contract is up in the summer.

I also don't see how to neatly fit rooney, rvp and mata into the same team.

How would you fit Cavani, RVP and Mata in then? Cavani has been playing wide for PSG, but he's no good at it and the only reason he might leave is to play as the striker somewhere. Presumably Mata will start at AM, so one of RVP and Cavani will need to be benched.

Purely hypothetical but how would you/others feel about a Rooney/Cavani swap deal. Obviously keeps both players away from Arsenal/Chelsea and means PSG can get rid of Cavani with out taking quite as large a financial hit.

How would you fit Cavani, RVP and Mata in then? Cavani has been playing wide for PSG, but he's no good at it and the only reason he might leave is to play as the striker somewhere. Presumably Mata will start at AM, so one of RVP and Cavani will need to be benched.