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Racists get a taste of their own medicine

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Original post by Mathemagicien
Except the left isn't self-flagellating. Are the american liberal celebrities who are lecturing european leaders taking in refugees themselves?


Self as in being part of "western society". Of course celebrities are just virtue signalling just like the rest of the liberals.
Original post by WBZ144
Imprisonment and killing cannot be put in the same category.

And no, it's not for those of us who have moved past the dark ages, it's not a mere case of disagreement.




Actually they can, both are used as methods of curtailing consistent law breakers.

Whichever means the Government uses is acceptable by me.
Original post by Truthteller10
Actually they can, both are used as methods of curtailing consistent law breakers.

Whichever means the Government uses is acceptable by me.


One is a civilised method, the other is barbaric and belongs in the past.
Original post by WBZ144
One is a civilised method, the other is barbaric and belongs in the past.




So capital punishment is barbaric?
Original post by Multiculturalism
They support a racist party :facepalm:



Yes, they are.



Come on, if somebody joins your local neo nazi party, that's not technically illegal, but it is very immoral, and a sign that they are an awful person.


Doxing is never right regardless of who does it.
How would you like me to track your name home address and then post it online. Maybe you don't live alone, may be your parents or sisters live there with you
Ive got to say it is a practice much beloved of left wing activists.
Original post by Josb
Why did the Nazis put a flight tax of between 60-100% on the properties of the Jews wishing to emigrate, as well as preventing them from getting foreign currencies and freezing their bank account, if they had wanted to encourage emigration?


Primarily because they were socialists.

They did not like the fact that Jews were rich; in fact that was one of their main reasons for not liking Jews. They liked the idea of Jews quitting Germany but did not like the idea of the Jews taking "Germany's" property with them.

That added to the fact that doing absolutely anything in Nazi Germany was even more of a bureaucratic mess than in Weimar or old Prussia, and you ended up with a situation in which the government was indirectly sabotaging its own emigration policy.
Reply 86
"Armed force is there as a last resort", said Ms Petry.
"No policeman wants to fire on a refugee and I don't want that either."
But "police must stop refugees entering German soil", she said.

Hardly "The leader calls for refugee children to be shot", is it?

Personally, I think that even her actual, stated position is unacceptable, but it can hardly be used to label her as a "Nazi". In fact, it is not really any different from the argument used to justify the abhorrent violence in some religious law.
"It's a last resort and they had a chance to stop what they were doing, and it can only be done by the authorities, not by any man in the street."
Reply 87
Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob
The fact she hasn't been drowned by middle management shows complicity, it's a racist party.
The content of the articles about policy show them to be xenophobic, rather than racist.

I think that "racist" could be in the running for the most misused word on TSR. Along with "evidence" and "true", amongst others.
Original post by QE2
The content of the articles about policy show them to be xenophobic, rather than racist.

I think that "racist" could be in the running for the most misused word on TSR. Along with "evidence" and "true", amongst others.


Are there xenophobic people that aren't racist?
Reply 89
Original post by WBZ144
Yes, gun them down like subhumans, nothing Nazi about that at all.
So when the Grenztruppen were gunning down people trying to cross the border to the West, were they Nazis as well?

These sorts of discussions would be far less annoying if people had an understanding of the subjects they make their definitive statements about. I mean, most people don't seem to know the difference between "racist" and "xenophobe". And others seem to assume that anyone who behaves with inhumanity towards their fellow man is a "Nazi".
:facepalm2:

Also, can you gun someone down "like a human"? And is that any less unacceptable?
Reply 90
Original post by WBZ144
I'm simply opposing the opinions of far-right apologists that they are not racist. That doesn't mean I care what happens to them as a result of their details being published.
So if some impressionable youth from a far-right family and environment is killed because their details were leaked, you wouldn't care.
Can I assume that likewise, you wouldn't care about the death of the Palestinian child who is encouraged to throw stones at IDF soldiers? (After all, they are both essentially misguided youngsters engaging in behaviour against percieved interlopers, that they are not entirely responsible for).

You see, when it all comes down, your position is no better that theirs. The dehuamanisation of an out-group, and dissasociation from their fate, is classic Nazi tactics.
Oops, look what I just did!
Reply 91
Original post by WBZ144
Throwing in an irrelevant strawman


does not detract from the fact that some of you clearly think that it is acceptable to condone the use violence and killing as a solution to every issue.
Ouch!
Reply 92
Original post by Truthteller10
So capital punishment is barbaric?
Yes. Absolutely. For a variety of reasons. Even if the victim is killed "humanely".
Reply 93
Original post by DanteTheDoorKnob
Are there xenophobic people that aren't racist?
It is entirely possible as they are two different things. A Venn diagram will certainly show an overlap, but they are by no means the same.
In my experience, many people who are labelled "racists" are actually xenophobes, and some are neither.
What would you call a black or Asian plumber bemoaning an influx of "bloody Polish" tradesmen? Is it racism, xenophobia, or just economic self-interest? Or a combination? The issue is nowhere near as clear as people on both sides often attempt to portray it.
Original post by QE2
It is entirely possible as they are two different things. A Venn diagram will certainly show an overlap, but they are by no means the same.
In my experience, many people who are labelled "racists" are actually xenophobes, and some are neither.
What would you call a black or Asian plumber bemoaning an influx of "bloody Polish" tradesmen? Is it racism, xenophobia, or just economic self-interest? Or a combination? The issue is nowhere near as clear as people on both sides often attempt to portray it.


Seems pedantic. I'd call the Asian plumber a racist yes, and in common speech so would most people i'd presume.

Logically, that might be the case, but in real life is the distinction real?
I don't know why but op reminds me of this guy.


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Original post by Truthteller10
So capital punishment is barbaric?


Yes.
Original post by QE2
So if some impressionable youth from a far-right family and environment is killed because their details were leaked, you wouldn't care.
Can I assume that likewise, you wouldn't care about the death of the Palestinian child who is encouraged to throw stones at IDF soldiers? (After all, they are both essentially misguided youngsters engaging in behaviour against percieved interlopers, that they are not entirely responsible for).

You see, when it all comes down, your position is no better that theirs. The dehuamanisation of an out-group, and dissasociation from their fate, is classic Nazi tactics.
Oops, look what I just did!


I don't think that the two situation can be compared, and can't be bothered to delve into my view on the Israel/Palestine conflict so won't stray off topic. But I will repeat: no; I don't wish any ill on these AfD members but don't will waste no energy caring what happens to them.
Original post by QE2
So when the Grenztruppen were gunning down people trying to cross the border to the West, were they Nazis as well?

These sorts of discussions would be far less annoying if people had an understanding of the subjects they make their definitive statements about. I mean, most people don't seem to know the difference between "racist" and "xenophobe". And others seem to assume that anyone who behaves with inhumanity towards their fellow man is a "Nazi".
:facepalm2:

Also, can you gun someone down "like a human"? And is that any less unacceptable?


1) There is a difference between using Nazi-like tactic and being a Nazi.

2) I view xenophobes just as lowly as racists but the two usually correlate.

3) Where did I indicate that there was a humane way to gun people down?
Original post by WBZ144
Yes.




Well that's your opinion, And i think I've made it clear that I don't really care too much about it.

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