The world is going to tear itself apart with Islam hate

Comparing the IRA to Islamic terror is fairly ridiculous. To start with, the IRA generally attacked military targets, and if it attacked a civilian target it would give an hours warning. Secondly, the IRA were primarily concerned with a unified Ireland, whereas the goals of Islamic fundamentalists are varying, with one common connector. They are all done in the name of Islam, in the name of Jihad, in the name of Muhammad and in the name of martyrdom. Without the violent teachings of the Koran, the number of these terror attacks would be slashed.

Not only that, but the violent beliefs promoted in the Koran lend themselves to such activity.

Three weeks ago, when a priest had his throat slit in Normandy, and his murderers gave a lecture on Islam and Sharia law, what were their motives? We could try and go into depth, claiming socio-economic issues or we could perhaps claim they were covert revolutionaries who were actually well versed in middle eastern affairs. However, the most likely answer is that they were motivated by a most violent religion into committing a most violent act.

but, in your post, you attacked those

there is a huge difference between being anti-Islam and being racist

Islam is a failed religion. It has failed to produce viable political and social models (at least, in the last 500 years or so)

It is riven by sectarian warfare, continuous civil war, oppression of minorities and continuous fitnah

numbers, by the way, are irrelevant - it is not quantity, but quality that counts

why not ? of course you can. Read the Quran and Sunnah this is absurd . The terrorist attacks are, primarily, the responsibility of those who perpetrate them. Excuses are cheap (it's the fault of the CIA, the Zionists, the rafidhi, the Illuminati, the Cambodian secret services etc etc) . All this is pathetic

the terrorist attacks are inspired, quite simply, by a literal interpretation of Quran and Sunnah. If the Quran and hadith did not contain so many violent, murderous incitements, it would be difficult or even impossible for the Salafi Jihadis to use Islam as their justification

In any case, Islam is , by its essence, a political religion, not some kind of world-removed mystical philosophy : so Jihadis acting for political purposes are very much in the tradition of Islamic history. Islam, all during its history, has aimed at "making the word of Allah reign supreme" : by peaceful means, if possible, by violent means, if necessary

There is of course, luckily, also "modernist", peaceful Islam, and also a purely personal, "mystical" Islam, but that's another issue

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The Quran also forbids aggressive warfare, forbids killing female/child hostages, forbids using terror for political gain. ISIS do all of these, so your point is also refuted there.

Oh when was this, on a gap yah?

Please stop protecting a dangerous ideology.

The basis for all religion is good,


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apart from Satanism

given you are wrong in your very first comment I'll not waste my time with the rest

http://www.churchofsatan.com/faq-fundamental-beliefs.php

Have a fab day, ye of little faith (although maybe I should have specified I meant the 'main' religions as it were ?)

but yes 'Main' would have been better (but it still doesn't include Islam)

Racism and Islamophobia tend to come together. Regardless of whether Islam is a race or not, its still religious discrimination and bigotry.

the rest of your post is so un-informed and assumptive, its not worth replying to.

take ANY case study of terrorism in the last 3 years in Europe, and almost all of them do it for political gain and not to help Islam

completely wrong. It has nothing to do with bigotry, or racism

being anti-Islam is a political/social statement, just like being anti-communist or anti-fascist. It means opposing a political/social agenda, not a purely personal religion, and most surely not a race

understood, dear friend

how very, very convenientwhat is the difference ?

Salafi/jihadis assume that Islam is now under attack by the "West", by "rafidhi Shias", Zionists, apostates, assorted infidels etc and therefore, by attacking those heinous kuffar, the terrorists are convinced they are helping Islam, as well as spreading the word of Allah, until there is no more fitnah (discord) but worship for him alone

you should realise that, in Islam, it is next to impossible to separate religion and politics

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You've misinterpreted me. People who are racist are very often Islamophobic as well.

And I think Sadiq Khan being the mayor of London is a direct contradiction to your theory of Islam being inseparable between politics and religion.

they may also speak English, or love spaghetti as well

by the way "Islamophobic" means next to nothing, if not much more closely defined

huh ?

Sadiq Khan is, at the same time, a (moderate) Muslim and a politician. How on Earth could he contradict my theory that Islam is inseparable from politics ?

quite on the contrary, dear friend

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Islamophobic = fear/hatred of Muslims or Islam, its simple

and it contradicts it because it shows that you can fully integrate with western politics without bringing in Islamic fundamentalist intentions, which is what you implied by your poorly worded response just before.

in Islam, it is next to impossible to separate religion and politics

it's not simple at all, and you still fail to realise it

fearing/ hating Islam is not the same as fearing or hating Muslims. Fearing is not the same as hating. Neither are strongly opposing, attacking, criticising, etc etc

fearing/hating terrorist Jihadis is not the same as fearing/hating average Muslims

"Islamophobia" is a general label used mostly to stifle any opposition to Islam taking a more important role in our societies

not at all, dear friend

my response was very well worded : I said that



this does not mean that every Muslim is, par force, a Jihadi fundamentalist : it means, rather, that Islam is not a purely personal belief, it comes with a political/social agenda

this agenda can, of course be formulated/interpreted in many ways. Some of the formulations/interpretations are perfectly incompatible with our (Western) parliamentary democracies, based on equality between sexes, religious beliefs, classical freedoms etc

some (usually defined as reformist, modernist etc) aren't

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Islamophobia is a collective term which means fear/hating Islam OR Muslims. Not 'and'.

exactly

Islamophobia (in general language) is a hammer used to hit on the head not only those who discriminate against Muslims, but also those who oppose Islam

once again : you can oppose, fear or even hate Islam, without opposing, fearing or hating Muslims in general (but only those who interpret it and act in a hateful, violent manner)

discriminating against Muslims is wrong ; opposing Islam is perfectly OK, and even commendable

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