Edexcel A2 Paper: Representation and Democracy

hi anyone know anything about how party policy was more clear cut in 1930 than 1830 i really dont understand this.. i mean both torys and liberals introduce reform after 1832 and 1867 and 1884 but how is this reform not as clear cut as that in 1918

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alro

party discipline was very weak at the beginning of the period - up until 1867 is described as the Golden Age of MPs meaning they could swap sides at will and there were some very fluid alliances. Also consider that the Liberal party took 20 years to form. By 1918 however, parties had to have more clear cut policies in order to appeal to the new mass electorate; they could no longer rely on archaic social norms. This was a gradual process and with every reform act the pressure on political parties to respond to their electorate became more intense. Things like Chief Whips (1832), party agents and local party organisations should be considered.

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so i can say
1832-67 splits over corn laws in tories.. lack of unity to any party.. policies were produced but ppl voted more on principles than policies and didnt need that many policies because of aristocratic dominacne.
development of organisation at central level
however the tamworth manifesto was something like a national manifesto.
NUCCA and NLF - what would i say about these?
creation of workers organisations to win over the new working class voters
1883- creation of primrose league. this was important in focusing on the principles of the conservatives
1880 - theres something about the MPs in parliametn here but cant rememver quite what it is
1884 had to appeal to the new farm labourers.. concentration in getting the votes in the countryside
1918 had to appeakl to the new electorate so policies became more clear cut but still people were voting on the principles of the parties with llyod george offering the best policies of all 3 parties but still the LIberals remained in decline

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Sparkle.Dremas

Does anyone have any useful notes / websites / pointers that could help with the causation essay (Qu.B) I'm very very scared at the moment :frown:

Reply 27

jen1987

so i can say
1832-67 splits over corn laws in tories.. lack of unity to any party.. policies were produced but ppl voted more on principles than policies and didnt need that many policies because of aristocratic dominacne.
development of organisation at central level
however the tamworth manifesto was something like a national manifesto.
NUCCA and NLF - what would i say about these? I'd say the formation of the carlton club and whig reform league. As well as policies such as municipal corp Act and amendment of the poor laws. Emplyment of agents etc.. In this way, id say 1832 was a turning point in party organisation.. esp due to the repeal of the corn laws.
creation of workers organisations to win over the new working class voters
1883- creation of primrose league. this was important in focusing on the principles of the conservatives showed more appeal to the working class.. eg) adulteration of food etc.. After 1867, the slate meant party disclipine was so much better.. but splits were still likely such as Home Rule
1880 - theres something about the MPs in parliametn here but cant rememver quite what it isis it that the majority were still aristocrats (76%)?
1884 had to appeal to the new farm labourers.. concentration in getting the votes in the countrysideAlso shows conservatives were moving from aristocrats and to middle class.. the 1883 act also meant that MPs had to have their parties behind them in decisions bcoz they couldnt buy votes anymore
1918 had to appeakl to the new electorate so policies became more clear cut but still people were voting on the principles of the parties with llyod george offering the best policies of all 3 parties but still the LIberals remained in decline

I jst kinda brainstormed that!! l just wanted to test myself! Good luck xxxx

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im starting to freak out!!!

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hazzie1

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I'm slightly worried by the idea there might be a question on whether WW1 was a turning point - I thought it was just on actual Reform Acts.
Also, I don't think if it's a causation question on (b) it'll be on forieng events - there's just not much you can write about, and you would have to have more specialised knowledge. One more thing - sources. My teacher said we didn't have to use them but on the Edexcel Website it says you will seriously disadvantage yourself if you don't, so what do I do? I haven't been taught how to use them, is it different from Unit 6?

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it wnt be on that it will be on the turning points.. ww1 is easy just like women more respectable and working class then say perhpas isnt wasnt cos of whatever.. or it will be on pressure for reform or why did i take so long for democracy to be achieved or the one on how far did parliamentary parties change e.g orgnasiation, policies adn social backgroud - they are the four themes that they'll test u on.. on sources u just need to quote them in ur answer to backup what ur saying its like unit 6 but i dnt think u need to use them as strongly as in unit6. btw you know unit 6 my teacher said answers must be source driven is this right?

Reply 31

hazzie1

I'm slightly worried by the idea there might be a question on whether WW1 was a turning point - I thought it was just on actual Reform Acts.
Also, I don't think if it's a causation question on (b) it'll be on forieng events - there's just not much you can write about, and you would have to have more specialised knowledge. One more thing - sources. My teacher said we didn't have to use them but on the Edexcel Website it says you will seriously disadvantage yourself if you don't, so what do I do? I haven't been taught how to use them, is it different from Unit 6?

it is very important (my teacher said) that we use the sources.. they r worth 12marks or something. But dont use them like unit 6. I just add them in!

I was thinking that there shuldnt hav been a question on war!! I didnt kno whether it meant the 1918 Reform Act! Im praying its on 1832 tomorro..
and Im really hoping to blag the factors question :frown:

Im thinking it mite b on social n economic...
Any one got any more predictions??

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jen1987

btw you know unit 6 my teacher said answers must be source driven is this right?

yup

Reply 33

Annik

it is very important (my teacher said) that we use the sources.. they r worth 12marks or something. But dont use them like unit 6. I just add them in!

I was thinking that there shuldnt hav been a question on war!! I didnt kno whether it meant the 1918 Reform Act! Im praying its on 1832 tomorro..
and Im really hoping to blag the factors question :frown:

Im thinking it mite b on social n economic...
Any one got any more predictions??

HUH social and economic what would this be?? we havent done this all i have on the econmy is how it went through peaks and troughs but basically it didnt realy influence demorcay but because the ecnomy was good the middle classes saw no need for expansion of the franchise?? OMG im gonna scream if its on social and economic.. Does anyone have any notes or can help me

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jen1987

HUH social and economic what would this be?? we havent done this all i have on the econmy is how it went through peaks and troughs but basically it didnt realy influence demorcay but because the ecnomy was good the middle classes saw no need for expansion of the franchise?? OMG im gonna scream if its on social and economic.. Does anyone have any notes or can help me

i dont have any notes...ill jst go thru briefly
1832 - the economic down turn of 1828-9 heightened peoples desire to protest..eg) swing riots (1830) and hunger politics created the atmosphere of anarchy... it can b argued that social and economic problems (esp due to corn laws) was a drive for reform.. the social feeling that the mclass were respectable was also very signfi.
1867 - there was the social feeling of wclass consciousness but it wasnt a serious factor.. there was an economic downturn but it didnt really matter
1884/5 - just increased social feeling that mclass were important and aristorctas werent
1918 - major due to social feeling after the war.. ie of women n wclass..

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so social is basically climate of opinion.. like ppl saw the aristocrats as the natural leaders.. by 1918 the climate of opinon changed with the working class and women being seen as safe after ww1.. etc?

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jen1987

so social is basically climate of opinion.. like ppl saw the aristocrats as the natural leaders.. by 1918 the climate of opinon changed with the working class and women being seen as safe after ww1.. etc?

basically.. it can be mainly seen in the effect or wars..
it wud a type of question designed for blagging methinks..

Any other ideas for possible factor questions?

Reply 37

Sparkle.Dremas

Can anyone just explain the Corn Laws / Free Trade to me in a couple of basic but useful sentences? Many thanks :smile:

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