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Help! I stop running not due to cardiovascular but due to joint pain i.e. hip and knee. If I walk, that's no problem. When I run and land; I get the pain.

For example,I ran for the first time outdoors on sunday, then today I ran 50 pecent less due to what I described in the previous paragraph.

How can I stop letting pain prevent me from reaching actual tiredness?

P.s I go gym to do weights only 3 times a week and do 15 mins skipping after I do jogging.Also used to run on the treadmill 3 times a week before I opted for outdoors.
If you are doing compound weights in the gym it might be the cause of the joint pain. You could try running on the grass (not concrete). Buy specialist running shoes. The only way to beat the pain is to rest. Running does make your bones denser, your muscles adapt and the tendons/ligaments strengthen so your body does adapt but it is hard at first. I suggest you do some core workouts if you are going to the gym. You perhaps know more about it than me but certainly the plank and side plank exercises helped me get over my hip trouble so try these.
Revenged
If you are doing compound weights in the gym it might be the cause of the joint pain. You could try running on the grass (not concrete). Buy specialist running shoes. The only way to beat the pain is to rest. Running does make your bones denser, your muscles adapt and the tendons/ligaments strengthen so your body does adapt but it is hard at first. I suggest you do some core workouts if you are going to the gym. You perhaps know more about it than me but certainly the plank and side plank exercises helped me get over my hip trouble so try these.


Quality. Thanks. As I'm a noob, can you give me some general outdoors runnng advice i.e. use music or dont//time of day to best do it etc.
Mr Halpert
Quality. Thanks. As I'm a noob, can you give me some general outdoors runnng advice i.e. use music or dont//time of day to best do it etc.


Running outside is easy. If you listen to music then make sure you can still here what's going on around you (in case of traffic etc). If you run after dark make sure to wear bright clothing and stick to routes you know. By courteous of other people- always nice to nod and smile at those who let you by :smile:
Mr Halpert
Quality. Thanks. As I'm a noob, can you give me some general outdoors runnng advice i.e. use music or dont//time of day to best do it etc.


It's personal preference. I always run with music. Unless it's the weekend I always in the afternoons (often run last thing at night). I honestly doubt it makes any difference.

My typical winter training:

Tempo run - 30 minutes efforts
2 x Long intervals - 40 minute workout (e.g. 2-5 min repeated efforts, short 1 minute recoveries)
Long run - 1h15

Typical summer training:

Tempo run - 30 minute efforts
1 x Long interval (as above)
1 or 2 x Short interval (1 minute efforts / hill sprint / middle distance track session 200-600m reps)
Long run - 1 hour

I run competitively for a club so I'm not sure if my advice is helpful but I mentioned it since you asked. If you are doing so much compound weight training it will interfere with what you can manage. I do think it helps prevent injury to do some form of weight training but my idea of weights is perhaps different to yours. You must rest though. It is a must. I would do 2-3 days off a week but rest days for most competitive runners is 'easy 5 mile runs' - named 'recovery runs. I mean it doesnt work. I have found lots of easy miles just causes sore joints, viruses and injury problems. If you keep it reasonable you run without problems and long term it gets results.

HTH
ran this morning though i again felt really slow.
I am trying to run in the morning atm as it is just to hot to have a good run in the evening.
Revenged
If you are doing compound weights in the gym it might be the cause of the joint pain. You could try running on the grass (not concrete). Buy specialist running shoes. The only way to beat the pain is to rest. Running does make your bones denser, your muscles adapt and the tendons/ligaments strengthen so your body does adapt but it is hard at first. I suggest you do some core workouts if you are going to the gym. You perhaps know more about it than me but certainly the plank and side plank exercises helped me get over my hip trouble so try these.


I would all your runs on the grass for a maybe a week or till you feel fine again.
First run after my 6 week injury and I manged 3.5 miles @ 7min miles on the grass. Quite suprised because I thought I would be going to be much slower. Mind you I was breathing more than usual for this sort of pace - my usual easy run pace. Going to do 4.5 miles tomorrow at the same pace on the grass. This will be the start of my base training.
jonntherunner
First run after my 6 week injury and I manged 3.5 miles @ 7min miles on the grass. Quite suprised because I thought I would be going to be much slower. Mind you I was breathing more than usual for this sort of pace - my usual easy run pace. Going to do 4.5 miles tomorrow at the same pace on the grass. This will be the start of my base training.


How long will your base training last? I'm planning to start in August, and cut out four weeks rest, then hopefully be pretty decent for cross country :smile: I didn't bother with it this season- first season and all, pretty silly..
manx1991
How long will your base training last? I'm planning to start in August, and cut out four weeks rest, then hopefully be pretty decent for cross country :smile: I didn't bother with it this season- first season and all, pretty silly..


Sounds good. Well I would do 4 weeks of easy running. Then maybe include some hill running/tempo runs/fartleks but no intervals yet. The base will probably last 12 weeks.
What I would say is four weeks maybe a bit too long but it depends how tired you are after the previous season. Dont jump into intervals too soon - I did this last season. Just take you time with it its all about building your mileage at this point.
jonntherunner
Sounds good. Well I would do 4 weeks of easy running. Then maybe include some hill running/tempo runs/fartleks but no intervals yet. The base will probably last 12 weeks.
What I would say is four weeks maybe a bit too long but it depends how tired you are after the previous season. Dont jump into intervals too soon - I did this last season. Just take you time with it its all about building your mileage at this point.


Haha, well I managed 3 months generally trying to run (though my commitment was hardly 100%) then got to about 3km and decided to throw a few speed sessions in once a week. Then it ended up my speed improved and my endurance dropped! Then again, no-one's in a particular rush to get my competing, we're very 'winners' orintated at my local club and it's like :mad:

I say that, I might be competing tomorrow in the Northern League! Fml, I was only supposed to be officiating...
Did the Launceston Half Marathon today. Did it in 1 hour, 31 minutes and 15 seconds :woo: thats a new PB and did it on such a tough course too.
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I went for a run today! (Yeah, I know, original post)

But I'm quite proud of myself because I could barely run 50m at one point (I was very overweight) and now I have managed to run a total of about a mile with a few walking breaks. I never realised it could make you feel so good, I can't wait to get fitter so I can go on a proper long run instead of just a short one.

I think my next goal will be to run to my 3x a week Karate class which is about half a mile, and then run back afterwards. I'll have to wait a few weeks though, because I will need my summer t shirt to arrive as my kit top is too bulky. Longer term I'd like to do the race for life and be able to run the whole way.

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Slightly OT question...

you see loads of girls being shouted down round here for doing sit ups to try and get a flat stomach - everyone always says about just going for a run instead. I'd really like to get a flat stomach, and obviously I am running, but will sit ups or other stomach exercises as well as that help to flatten my stomach or are they totally and utterly redundant?
I ran five miles today (this morning) and for some reason my foot is now in agony, it feels weird in the middle, like a back muscle strain almost. Any ideas as to whats gone wrong?
SpamBa
I went for a run today! (Yeah, I know, original post)

But I'm quite proud of myself because I could barely run 50m at one point (I was very overweight) and now I have managed to run a total of about a mile with a few walking breaks. I never realised it could make you feel so good, I can't wait to get fitter so I can go on a proper long run instead of just a short one.

I think my next goal will be to run to my 3x a week Karate class which is about half a mile, and then run back afterwards. I'll have to wait a few weeks though, because I will need my summer t shirt to arrive as my kit top is too bulky. Longer term I'd like to do the race for life and be able to run the whole way.

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Slightly OT question...

you see loads of girls being shouted down round here for doing sit ups to try and get a flat stomach - everyone always says about just going for a run instead. I'd really like to get a flat stomach, and obviously I am running, but will sit ups or other stomach exercises as well as that help to flatten my stomach or are they totally and utterly redundant?

sit ups arn't great, and alone they are pretty redundant the idea is they tone your muscles and then the running lowers your bf, so that it all seems flat ( unless you want a 6 pack) lol
you're better off doing a plank-esque hold for as long as you can a few times, or better yet, devise a simple circuit routine involving ab, leg and upper body excercises to do on days whe you're not runningg or kicking the skittles out of people
blatchcorn
Did the Launceston Half Marathon today. Did it in 1 hour, 31 minutes and 15 seconds :woo: thats a new PB and did it on such a tough course too.


Well done :biggrin: I need to be getting that- put me in the top 10 of UK U20 female half runners (argh!) only 10 weeks now until my first attempt :smile: What kind of training have you been doing?
The past week's running has been pretty good, but I went hillwalking on saturday and now my calves are ******. :frown: I don't know if I should just man up and go for a run, but I fear more aching or pulling things. How pathetic lol. Swimming it is...
Reply 1197
I am currently running 5k 4-5 times a week :biggrin: I am noticing how much easier it is getting even after just 3-4 weeks and I can see a massive difference in my body :eek: love it :smile:
SpamBa
I went for a run today! (Yeah, I know, original post)

But I'm quite proud of myself because I could barely run 50m at one point (I was very overweight) and now I have managed to run a total of about a mile with a few walking breaks. I never realised it could make you feel so good, I can't wait to get fitter so I can go on a proper long run instead of just a short one.

I think my next goal will be to run to my 3x a week Karate class which is about half a mile, and then run back afterwards. I'll have to wait a few weeks though, because I will need my summer t shirt to arrive as my kit top is too bulky. Longer term I'd like to do the race for life and be able to run the whole way.

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Slightly OT question...

you see loads of girls being shouted down round here for doing sit ups to try and get a flat stomach - everyone always says about just going for a run instead. I'd really like to get a flat stomach, and obviously I am running, but will sit ups or other stomach exercises as well as that help to flatten my stomach or are they totally and utterly redundant?


Well done on getting out there for runs, I'm a bit of a newbie to running as well and I'm up to about 3-4 km a couple of times a week. I think having a race to aim for is a great idea, I want to do a 5km around September time, something like the adidas 5km challenge in Hyde Park.

I'd tend to agree with Seb about doing sit-ups, for me running is great for overall toning/fitness.

Amy
What does everyone use to measure their running distance? Preferably with a link of some sort. :yy:

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