Original post by wanderlust.xxYou're right. A year spent doing a bit of hard graft is better spent than another year in education. Besides, if I did a masters then I'd be doing more of the difficult modules with less weighting on the easier ones, which is much harder than a BSc.
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For one thing, doing a mathematics degree shows that you're capable of learning and problem solving efficiently, which you can't find in a language or engineering degree.
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Wrong - languages are more useful in the real world and more relevant to the workplace where high-level maths is never used, anything relevant will be on your professioanl qual syllabus, and the ability to condense and learn foreign information quickly then communicate it is key.
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Yes, you can teach or tutor at any age, but the fact is that a strong knack with numbers helps you get a long way ahead in the world.
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Wrong, anyone can add up and work out interest rates - a sound knowledge of the economy, investments, mortgages and pensions is what will get you ahead in the real world. My sister has a 2:1 in maths from Imperial and is a financial disaster area.
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Firstly, doing a Finance and Accountancy degree is actually frowned upon (from what those who have worked at places like P&G, KPMG, PWC and Ernst and Young).
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Wrong - all private firms are interested in driving profit, EY, PWC and KPMG are partnering with universities - in some cases delivering the ACA/ACCA in conjuction with the degree to mean their trainees can spend 0 time in trainign college when they start at the firm and be work experience slaves for their audit teams before they start.
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Why? Simply put, they have to "un-teach" what you've learnt. You'll learn something in a particular way during your uni course, and then they'll want to teach you in such a way that it'll help their company prosper, and the person may sit there and say, "but I learnt it this way".
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Wrong - what drives the audit profession is membership of regualted bodies, the firms want to push you through as fast as possible to get you out on more jobs racking up billable hours. They do not care about you - you are a pushed through - if you are up to scratch you stay, if you are good/lazy you'll move to a bank/industry, if you are crap you'll be sacked. In any case there will be 1000 more audit slaves next year. They are pyramid schemes.
You're comment about company prosper is hilarious - thye don't give a crap - you just go in scrape through the ACA, do the donkey work - then focus on what helps the company prosper - doing the leg work for the partners who make all the decisions.
If you REALLy want to climb to the top - its about your ability to keep up to date with current legislation in the professiona dn do client facing networking and sales pitches. Maths wil never come into it.
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Self studying ACA/ACCA is fine, yeah, but if you have a solid degree, then you've got a higher chance of getting onto a graduate scheme than you do as a school leaver, where the company can give you full support, a paid job and a fantastic support network.
It's common sense - degree + them teaching you > you learning yourself + A levels.
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Wrong - first off all firms want to cut costs - by self-studying the ACA your CV basically says "this candidate will save teh firm £10,000 in training costs and will not need any time off for college - saving at least 6 months dead time."
You will then get onto a grad scheme - just like you say!! Except without all the Uni debts + earning £25k a year - thats £50k take home instead of £20k debt at the end of 3 years.
PWC offer entry for AAT students - just the same as grads - this should say it all really.
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Yeah, the ACA carries more weight, but a maths degree will open more doors for you, it tell other people that you are in fact clever, and it will distinguish you from the other million or so 18 year olds who think, "I want to make money, I'll be an accountant!"