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I want to join the British Army - medical queries.
I know strictly speaking I should go to my AFCO for definitive information, but I have a few questions about my eligibility to join the British Army and I wanted to spark some debate.
I am about to become a full-time student and I eventually plan on joining the Royal Corps of Signals as an Officer - Troop Commander (Regular or TA, I haven't made up my mind yet). However, I have a couple of things that I suspect may be a barrier to joining.
I was diagnosed at age 3 with very mild Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD. I will not try to hide this as that would be a breach of my integrity. However, the condition does not affect me in my day-to-day life and my CV is full of things that will corroborate that:
- Six years experience in the Air Training Corps, and I have reached the rank of Flight Sergeant
- PADI Open Water diver
- Silver Wings Gliding Scholarship
- Completed the Air Cadet Junior Leaders 11 Course and received an ILM Certificate in Team Leading (Level 2), as well as the Per Ardua Trophy for the Most Improved Student on the course
- Took part in VSO's Global Xchange programme during my gap year in which I spent six months away doing voluntary work, the first three months in Glasgow and the other three months in China as part of a cross-cultural exchange programme. http://www.globalxchange.org.uk (Youth Xchange Team 112, Glasgow-China). I also have a very positive reference from VSO citing my leadership / social skills etc.
- In addition, I want to join the UOTC when I get to uni to develop these skills further and make myself the best possible candidate I can be.
I do not consider myself to be socially handicapped in any way - I feel that I am a confident extrovert, able to make friends easily and socialise with anyone. I enjoy serious good banter every day. Nobody knows I have Aspergers until I tell them. My ADHD has not been a problem since I was nine or ten years old - I was on Ritalin to mitigate the condition for roughly a year, but after I was taken off the medication it has not ever been a problem in day-to-day life.
I was asthmatic pre-adolescence but I have not used an inhaler since I was about ten. I was declared free of asthma by my asthma nurse at sixteen (I believe this is explicitly stated on my medical record) so that I could do my Gliding Scholarship with the air cadets. I am now nineteen and still have no trouble with asthma - last year I completed a half marathon in 1 hour 51 minutes and my 1.5 mile time is about 9 minutes flat - I keep my CV fitness up; my peak MSFT level is level 13. I am reasonably confident that this should not present a problem but it is still a slight worry.
My main concern is that if I get to the medical stage and the MO looks at my record and sees Aspergers/ADHD on there, I will receive an instant ban from joining, regardless of what I'm actually like as a person. I also have a letter from my GP which I sent to my Gliding School stating that my Aspergers is no longer a problem (or words to that effect - would it be worth applying through my AFCO with a fresh letter from my GP offering his support in this matter?)
I am utterly determined to serve as an Officer in the British Army and I will do whatever it takes to achieve that ambition, and I do not want these slight blips on my medical record to hold me back. I understand that in the present climate the Armed Forces are oversubscribed and they can afford to be very picky with candidates, but will Aspergers, even in it's mildest form, with support in writing from my GP, be a permanent barrier to entry?
And yes, I did see a similar thread further down the page but I felt that this required a separate thread. If this is not the case I apologise.
Many thanks for taking the time to read this thread.
I am about to become a full-time student and I eventually plan on joining the Royal Corps of Signals as an Officer - Troop Commander (Regular or TA, I haven't made up my mind yet). However, I have a couple of things that I suspect may be a barrier to joining.
I was diagnosed at age 3 with very mild Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD. I will not try to hide this as that would be a breach of my integrity. However, the condition does not affect me in my day-to-day life and my CV is full of things that will corroborate that:
- Six years experience in the Air Training Corps, and I have reached the rank of Flight Sergeant
- PADI Open Water diver
- Silver Wings Gliding Scholarship
- Completed the Air Cadet Junior Leaders 11 Course and received an ILM Certificate in Team Leading (Level 2), as well as the Per Ardua Trophy for the Most Improved Student on the course
- Took part in VSO's Global Xchange programme during my gap year in which I spent six months away doing voluntary work, the first three months in Glasgow and the other three months in China as part of a cross-cultural exchange programme. http://www.globalxchange.org.uk (Youth Xchange Team 112, Glasgow-China). I also have a very positive reference from VSO citing my leadership / social skills etc.
- In addition, I want to join the UOTC when I get to uni to develop these skills further and make myself the best possible candidate I can be.
I do not consider myself to be socially handicapped in any way - I feel that I am a confident extrovert, able to make friends easily and socialise with anyone. I enjoy serious good banter every day. Nobody knows I have Aspergers until I tell them. My ADHD has not been a problem since I was nine or ten years old - I was on Ritalin to mitigate the condition for roughly a year, but after I was taken off the medication it has not ever been a problem in day-to-day life.
I was asthmatic pre-adolescence but I have not used an inhaler since I was about ten. I was declared free of asthma by my asthma nurse at sixteen (I believe this is explicitly stated on my medical record) so that I could do my Gliding Scholarship with the air cadets. I am now nineteen and still have no trouble with asthma - last year I completed a half marathon in 1 hour 51 minutes and my 1.5 mile time is about 9 minutes flat - I keep my CV fitness up; my peak MSFT level is level 13. I am reasonably confident that this should not present a problem but it is still a slight worry.
My main concern is that if I get to the medical stage and the MO looks at my record and sees Aspergers/ADHD on there, I will receive an instant ban from joining, regardless of what I'm actually like as a person. I also have a letter from my GP which I sent to my Gliding School stating that my Aspergers is no longer a problem (or words to that effect - would it be worth applying through my AFCO with a fresh letter from my GP offering his support in this matter?)
I am utterly determined to serve as an Officer in the British Army and I will do whatever it takes to achieve that ambition, and I do not want these slight blips on my medical record to hold me back. I understand that in the present climate the Armed Forces are oversubscribed and they can afford to be very picky with candidates, but will Aspergers, even in it's mildest form, with support in writing from my GP, be a permanent barrier to entry?
And yes, I did see a similar thread further down the page but I felt that this required a separate thread. If this is not the case I apologise.
Many thanks for taking the time to read this thread.
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when i joined you had to be asthma free for 5 years minimum.
i dont know for a fact but i suspect they would be bars to entry. you may be ok sitting with your family, but say you end up serving in afghanistan and experiencing some traumatic stuff. dealing with trauma is hard for anybody, if you have other disorders which may make it hard for you to overcome this, you may have lots of problems.
ring an afco for an answer, but you must remember that bars are there for a reason. if you start going mental when the lead wasps start buzzing, you shouldnt be a soldier.
i dont know for a fact but i suspect they would be bars to entry. you may be ok sitting with your family, but say you end up serving in afghanistan and experiencing some traumatic stuff. dealing with trauma is hard for anybody, if you have other disorders which may make it hard for you to overcome this, you may have lots of problems.
ring an afco for an answer, but you must remember that bars are there for a reason. if you start going mental when the lead wasps start buzzing, you shouldnt be a soldier.
is asperger's a lifelong thing or can it fade away as you get older/more confident? genuine question if you say it doesn't affect you at all any more, do you actually have it?
Original post by clarusblue
is asperger's a lifelong thing or can it fade away as you get older/more confident? genuine question if you say it doesn't affect you at all any more, do you actually have it?
Its better known as Autism and never goes away. Some people can be really bad some can just seem odd (trying not be offensive so sorry if am) and can have question for every answer and are very hard to talk too. I've also found people with the symptom find hard to follow orders and hate to be questioned. They can very hard to get to know and are very unsociable.
In my experience I could not see someone with symptom in armed forces. Maybe I've only dealt with people with harsh symptoms but it would put peoples life's at risk.
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There isn't a debate to be had - either you pass the requirements or you don't. Nobody here is qualified to make valid judgement on those conditions, so the only way to get a proper answer is to get on with your life and apply for OTC when you get there.
For the RAF, Aspergers is a bar to entry and ADHD must be 3 years without treatment.
For the RAF, Aspergers is a bar to entry and ADHD must be 3 years without treatment.
Thanks for the replies.
I have heard stories of people "out-growing" their autism.
"In some cases, children do seem to recover -- so much so that the diagnosis of ASD [autism spectrum disorder - blanket term for Aspergers, autism etc] is withdrawn."
http://www.mychildwithoutlimits.org/?page=autism-prognosis
Obviously I understand that this is not the norm. Many people with severe Aspergers can often need life-long care and can never quite be truly independent and have problems for the rest of their lives. It all depends on severity. No one can tell that I have the condition.
I will speak to my GP and ask for it to be wiped from my record and chat with the DS at OTC when I get there, many thanks.
More replies always welcomed!
I have heard stories of people "out-growing" their autism.
"In some cases, children do seem to recover -- so much so that the diagnosis of ASD [autism spectrum disorder - blanket term for Aspergers, autism etc] is withdrawn."
http://www.mychildwithoutlimits.org/?page=autism-prognosis
Obviously I understand that this is not the norm. Many people with severe Aspergers can often need life-long care and can never quite be truly independent and have problems for the rest of their lives. It all depends on severity. No one can tell that I have the condition.
I will speak to my GP and ask for it to be wiped from my record and chat with the DS at OTC when I get there, many thanks.
More replies always welcomed!
My advice would be to join the TA during Uni, not the OTC.
If you have a decent unit nearby, you'll find it much more 'down to earth'. And it'll look more impressive on your CV, aswell.
For obvious reasons, don't lie to the army about your medical records (even though worrying about breaching your integrity is a bit odd...)
If you have a decent unit nearby, you'll find it much more 'down to earth'. And it'll look more impressive on your CV, aswell.
For obvious reasons, don't lie to the army about your medical records (even though worrying about breaching your integrity is a bit odd...)
Original post by COLLEY556
I know strictly speaking I should go to my AFCO for definitive information, but I have a few questions about my eligibility to join the British Army and I wanted to spark some debate.
I am about to become a full-time student and I eventually plan on joining the Royal Corps of Signals as an Officer - Troop Commander (Regular or TA, I haven't made up my mind yet). However, I have a couple of things that I suspect may be a barrier to joining.
I was diagnosed at age 3 with very mild Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD. I will not try to hide this as that would be a breach of my integrity. However, the condition does not affect me in my day-to-day life and my CV is full of things that will corroborate that:
- Six years experience in the Air Training Corps, and I have reached the rank of Flight Sergeant
- PADI Open Water diver
- Silver Wings Gliding Scholarship
- Completed the Air Cadet Junior Leaders 11 Course and received an ILM Certificate in Team Leading (Level 2), as well as the Per Ardua Trophy for the Most Improved Student on the course
- Took part in VSO's Global Xchange programme during my gap year in which I spent six months away doing voluntary work, the first three months in Glasgow and the other three months in China as part of a cross-cultural exchange programme. http://www.globalxchange.org.uk (Youth Xchange Team 112, Glasgow-China). I also have a very positive reference from VSO citing my leadership / social skills etc.
- In addition, I want to join the UOTC when I get to uni to develop these skills further and make myself the best possible candidate I can be.
I do not consider myself to be socially handicapped in any way - I feel that I am a confident extrovert, able to make friends easily and socialise with anyone. I enjoy serious good banter every day. Nobody knows I have Aspergers until I tell them. My ADHD has not been a problem since I was nine or ten years old - I was on Ritalin to mitigate the condition for roughly a year, but after I was taken off the medication it has not ever been a problem in day-to-day life.
I was asthmatic pre-adolescence but I have not used an inhaler since I was about ten. I was declared free of asthma by my asthma nurse at sixteen (I believe this is explicitly stated on my medical record) so that I could do my Gliding Scholarship with the air cadets. I am now nineteen and still have no trouble with asthma - last year I completed a half marathon in 1 hour 51 minutes and my 1.5 mile time is about 9 minutes flat - I keep my CV fitness up; my peak MSFT level is level 13. I am reasonably confident that this should not present a problem but it is still a slight worry.
My main concern is that if I get to the medical stage and the MO looks at my record and sees Aspergers/ADHD on there, I will receive an instant ban from joining, regardless of what I'm actually like as a person. I also have a letter from my GP which I sent to my Gliding School stating that my Aspergers is no longer a problem (or words to that effect - would it be worth applying through my AFCO with a fresh letter from my GP offering his support in this matter?)
I am utterly determined to serve as an Officer in the British Army and I will do whatever it takes to achieve that ambition, and I do not want these slight blips on my medical record to hold me back. I understand that in the present climate the Armed Forces are oversubscribed and they can afford to be very picky with candidates, but will Aspergers, even in it's mildest form, with support in writing from my GP, be a permanent barrier to entry?
And yes, I did see a similar thread further down the page but I felt that this required a separate thread. If this is not the case I apologise.
Many thanks for taking the time to read this thread.
I am about to become a full-time student and I eventually plan on joining the Royal Corps of Signals as an Officer - Troop Commander (Regular or TA, I haven't made up my mind yet). However, I have a couple of things that I suspect may be a barrier to joining.
I was diagnosed at age 3 with very mild Asperger's Syndrome and ADHD. I will not try to hide this as that would be a breach of my integrity. However, the condition does not affect me in my day-to-day life and my CV is full of things that will corroborate that:
- Six years experience in the Air Training Corps, and I have reached the rank of Flight Sergeant
- PADI Open Water diver
- Silver Wings Gliding Scholarship
- Completed the Air Cadet Junior Leaders 11 Course and received an ILM Certificate in Team Leading (Level 2), as well as the Per Ardua Trophy for the Most Improved Student on the course
- Took part in VSO's Global Xchange programme during my gap year in which I spent six months away doing voluntary work, the first three months in Glasgow and the other three months in China as part of a cross-cultural exchange programme. http://www.globalxchange.org.uk (Youth Xchange Team 112, Glasgow-China). I also have a very positive reference from VSO citing my leadership / social skills etc.
- In addition, I want to join the UOTC when I get to uni to develop these skills further and make myself the best possible candidate I can be.
I do not consider myself to be socially handicapped in any way - I feel that I am a confident extrovert, able to make friends easily and socialise with anyone. I enjoy serious good banter every day. Nobody knows I have Aspergers until I tell them. My ADHD has not been a problem since I was nine or ten years old - I was on Ritalin to mitigate the condition for roughly a year, but after I was taken off the medication it has not ever been a problem in day-to-day life.
I was asthmatic pre-adolescence but I have not used an inhaler since I was about ten. I was declared free of asthma by my asthma nurse at sixteen (I believe this is explicitly stated on my medical record) so that I could do my Gliding Scholarship with the air cadets. I am now nineteen and still have no trouble with asthma - last year I completed a half marathon in 1 hour 51 minutes and my 1.5 mile time is about 9 minutes flat - I keep my CV fitness up; my peak MSFT level is level 13. I am reasonably confident that this should not present a problem but it is still a slight worry.
My main concern is that if I get to the medical stage and the MO looks at my record and sees Aspergers/ADHD on there, I will receive an instant ban from joining, regardless of what I'm actually like as a person. I also have a letter from my GP which I sent to my Gliding School stating that my Aspergers is no longer a problem (or words to that effect - would it be worth applying through my AFCO with a fresh letter from my GP offering his support in this matter?)
I am utterly determined to serve as an Officer in the British Army and I will do whatever it takes to achieve that ambition, and I do not want these slight blips on my medical record to hold me back. I understand that in the present climate the Armed Forces are oversubscribed and they can afford to be very picky with candidates, but will Aspergers, even in it's mildest form, with support in writing from my GP, be a permanent barrier to entry?
And yes, I did see a similar thread further down the page but I felt that this required a separate thread. If this is not the case I apologise.
Many thanks for taking the time to read this thread.
The answer is no chance, not in a million years, I am sorry I had to break it to you, but my advice is to pursue an alternative career. The reason is because I also have Asperger's and I did try the Army myself, I was turned down and their reasoning was because the MoD and ATRD (formerly ATRA) believe that being diagnosed with Asperger's makes the sufferer "mental", "retarded" and "unstable" and have also stated I should be a "psychiatric patient", I have been in an 8 year battle with them over the ridiculous assumptions they have made which to say the least are absolute proof of their severe lack of knowledge in this area, and because of this severe lack of knowledge prefer to make assumptions based on a very ill conceived belief. The 8 year battle will be concluded on Tuesday 4th October when I go to London and the Royal Courts of Justice to challenge in the Courts the outrageous claims they have made. The Army and the MoD have no evidence to support ANY of the claims they have made, they are attempting to deny that I did anything in 2003, for example, I went on 2 different "Look at Life" 2 day encounters, with both the Poachers (Royal Anglian Regiment) Bassingbourn in Hertfordshire, and The Vikings at Colchester (Parachute Regiment). They deny both of these and I have dates, 17th and 18th September 2003 (Vikings) and 27th and 28th October 2003 (Poachers). They deny I ever took the BARB test, yet I have evidence of that too, showing that I scored 35. If I was to mention everything, I would be here until next year.
A final note to you: I contacted the press (Norwich Evening News) and they in turn contacted the MoD who stated that they have no policy on Asperger's and that each candidate is assessed on an individual basis. If you do choose to pursue a career in the Army, please do let me know if you are allowed in, I would be very much interested to know how you get on, as if you are allowed in, I should have been back in 2003, dont misconstrue what I am saying, I am simply saying that I have been fighting with them for over 8 years and still am to this day, with the knowledge you were passed as "fit" to serve like I was originally then failed in March 2003 will be intriguing.
I look forward to anything you may wish to ask me.
Why was my post given a negative rating?
What I do wrong?
What I do wrong?
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Cheers mate, for the record I didn't see anything wrong with your post either. Internet warriors who hide behind a clicky button. Just leave them be.
It does seem ridiculous to have a blanket policy on something as varied as Aspergers. With some people you really can't tell if they have it. No one guesses that I have it until I actually tell them, and even then they're like "really? I wouldn't have guessed". I'm still going to go for it. No point giving up before I've even started!
It does seem ridiculous to have a blanket policy on something as varied as Aspergers. With some people you really can't tell if they have it. No one guesses that I have it until I actually tell them, and even then they're like "really? I wouldn't have guessed". I'm still going to go for it. No point giving up before I've even started!
You wonder why something as regulated and precise as the Armed Forces wouldn't want to risk training on someone who's behaviour they can't understand and predict?
Sure, some of those with it might be ideal recruits. Some might be utterly awful and less suited to it than a wet paper bag. As you correctly say, you can't really tell if people have it or which way they have it, or what will set them off... And then there's the huge variable of what support they might need if it does flare up, medication/therapy of one form or another... Not to mention the extra training needed for all supervisors to be able to cater for the people and to spot the signs that they might be suffering.
Yeah, a blanket policy is a bit harsh, but they're in a buyer's market and they can afford to be picky. They need, relatively, very few people and will only pick the best. It's the most sensible option.
Sure, some of those with it might be ideal recruits. Some might be utterly awful and less suited to it than a wet paper bag. As you correctly say, you can't really tell if people have it or which way they have it, or what will set them off... And then there's the huge variable of what support they might need if it does flare up, medication/therapy of one form or another... Not to mention the extra training needed for all supervisors to be able to cater for the people and to spot the signs that they might be suffering.
Yeah, a blanket policy is a bit harsh, but they're in a buyer's market and they can afford to be picky. They need, relatively, very few people and will only pick the best. It's the most sensible option.
I am of the opinion that training will build the recruit up to be able to do the job, I for one can, I was accepted but then later turned down, this is as a result of a severe lack of knowledge and as I said in my previous post, the MoD rather prefer to make assumptions before knowing the facts about it, further, none of them are qualified psychiatrists or any kind of doctor that can make these judgements, the Doctor that has been saying this is only qualified to M.B.B.S (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Science), he is not a qualified psychiatrist by a long shot, thus his opinions are completely invalid and without any justification or merit.
COLLEY556, I do hope you get somewhere with your application and do wish you all the best, I also would hope that you would provide me with some details should you be allowed to enlist as it will set in concrete my justified accusations against the MoD and its Directorates including ATRD (Army Recruiting and Training Division).
Please keep me updated.
COLLEY556, I do hope you get somewhere with your application and do wish you all the best, I also would hope that you would provide me with some details should you be allowed to enlist as it will set in concrete my justified accusations against the MoD and its Directorates including ATRD (Army Recruiting and Training Division).
Please keep me updated.
Huh?
Lost me!
Lost me!
Drewski, I definitely see what you are saying, and to a very large extent I agree, if I were a member of HM Forces I would only want the best and most stable in my section / platoon / company / whatever.
However, your statement "You wonder why something as regulated and precise as the Armed Forces wouldn't want to risk training on someone who's behaviour they can't understand and predict?" - doesn't quite stand up because no one's behaviour is truly predictable. Everyone is an individual. But I don't disagree with you for the most part.
In my case it is all hypothetical at the moment anyway seeing as I haven't started an application yet. I'm going to go to the UOTC first and see what happens there. If I'm successful I will go through the CoC to find out what I can do and see if my chance of enlisting is realistic.
What I was trying to establish in my first post was that I don't believe I am afflicted, even though I have been diagnosed and been medicated in the past for my ADHD but that ceased years ago. I feel it would be unfair to reject my application as I suffer from none of the typical symptoms of Aspergers. It affects your ability to socialise. I have absolutely NO problem interacting with people or understanding emotions or any of the symptoms you may care to list. I was supported my GP when it came to my Gliding Scholarship, he said I wasn't exhibiting any of the symptoms (or words to that effect). I will use that report to back me up.
Thanks to all who have posted so far!
However, your statement "You wonder why something as regulated and precise as the Armed Forces wouldn't want to risk training on someone who's behaviour they can't understand and predict?" - doesn't quite stand up because no one's behaviour is truly predictable. Everyone is an individual. But I don't disagree with you for the most part.
In my case it is all hypothetical at the moment anyway seeing as I haven't started an application yet. I'm going to go to the UOTC first and see what happens there. If I'm successful I will go through the CoC to find out what I can do and see if my chance of enlisting is realistic.
What I was trying to establish in my first post was that I don't believe I am afflicted, even though I have been diagnosed and been medicated in the past for my ADHD but that ceased years ago. I feel it would be unfair to reject my application as I suffer from none of the typical symptoms of Aspergers. It affects your ability to socialise. I have absolutely NO problem interacting with people or understanding emotions or any of the symptoms you may care to list. I was supported my GP when it came to my Gliding Scholarship, he said I wasn't exhibiting any of the symptoms (or words to that effect). I will use that report to back me up.
Thanks to all who have posted so far!
Original post by «THÖMÅS®©™»
I am of the opinion that training will build the recruit up to be able to do the job
and the Army is of the opinion that it will, if the recruit is within all the criteria it sets. It is unfortunate that you fall outside that criteria.
Please keep us updated with your legal proceedings. I hope they give you whatever it is you are seeking.
I am seeking to force the MoD to research Asperger's rather than make ridiculous assumptions beforehand.
If that is rejected by them, I will seek damages for several issues they have caused.
If that is rejected by them, I will seek damages for several issues they have caused.
Original post by «THÖMÅS®©™»
I am seeking to force the MoD to research Asperger's rather than make ridiculous assumptions beforehand.
If that is rejected by them, I will seek damages for several issues they have caused.
If that is rejected by them, I will seek damages for several issues they have caused.
You want the army to pay you for damages? what have they caused? As you have never been employed by them or been under contract with them, it was under your own steam that any problems were caused. they said no, and you insist on fighting it.
You make me sick, there are guys missing one, two, three limbs, penis' and testicals, and other parts that you really wouldnt want to lose, who get a pitiful settlement in comparison to their injuries. doing a job like search which they didnt want to do or didnt sign up to do. yet you feel you are owed money also? you dont know the meaning of issues.
Plain and simple, those most at risk of PTSD and mental health issues as a result of operations are reservists, loners, replacements and those not properly integrated into their unit. Anybody who is slightly set aside from the group.
So you both say you are symptom free. Firstly, neither of you have a medical qualification of any kind, so i would trust a dr first.
secondly, its all very well being nice and comfortable in your room. what possible experience do you have to suggest that once you get on the front line in afghanistan, you will still be symptom free? guys with perfect mental health can suffer a multitude of problems as a result of combat, so it is perfectly reasonable to assume there is a real possibility of your symptoms coming back.
i actively support cases like this being rejected. If there is any reasonable doubt as to your ability to perform your job on operations, you should not be allowed in.
could you face the wife of a father of two, who died because mental problems you suffered as a result of your condition, prevented you from giving effective lifesaving treatment at the point of wounding, that you were aware that this could of been an issue all along, but decided to go anyway.
think of it like this:
not allowed in:
applicant unhappy, nobody gets really hurt
allowed in on risk:
possibility applicant cannot cope, directly/indirectly causes injury or death of colleague or themself.
if you are prepared to take the risk of the second, you have no place as a soldier.
And if your prepared to come here and cause malice to someone else, I suggest you leave!
**EDIT**
And for the record, I have done extensive research of my own and found that many different countries do allow "Aspie's" to enlist, this INCLUDES the United States. This led to me making a ground breaking discovery, just because one has "Asperger's like myself and the thread starter, does not mean that they are incapable of performing a job, in this case fighting for his country. I would suggest that you should be banned from here after that little rant at me with intent to cause malice to others like myself too.
**EDIT**
And for the record, I have done extensive research of my own and found that many different countries do allow "Aspie's" to enlist, this INCLUDES the United States. This led to me making a ground breaking discovery, just because one has "Asperger's like myself and the thread starter, does not mean that they are incapable of performing a job, in this case fighting for his country. I would suggest that you should be banned from here after that little rant at me with intent to cause malice to others like myself too.
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