Why are some people so anti-makeup?

When I lived in the US, it was the exact opposite. Even girls on the Target checkout were wearing enough make-up to sink a battleship. My American female friends were amazed at how little make-up I wore (yes, I am British) in comparison to them. I let one do my face for a night out and I felt like a drag queen, I had to scrape most of it off.

I very rarely saw any women in the States without make-up, even on the beach. So no idea why you are making such brash generalisations.

The main countries I don't see women wearing much make-up are places like Spain, Italy.. It just melts off in the sun, so not much point.

Sentiments like this are why people who don't wear makeup can often get a bit militant I think makeup is completely up to personal choice, but I resent living in a society that thinks I've 'not made an effort' because I go without makeup 99% of the time and don't think I should be expected to wear it.

I also personally think that people look better without makeup - yes, including without 'natural-style' makeup. Obviously it's personal choice, but that's my point; we shouldn't be told that we're somehow less attractive/smart/etc because we don't wear makeup, any more than we should be told that we look worse with makeup on.

So? Their facial appearance has been drastically improved. They are no longer ugly. Therefore you did contradict your own point.

yeah, I've never hear that one before, nor have I been challenged on multiple occasions to say which girls have foundation on and which haven't and got it bang on every time without even looking away from the rugby


I've had this same debate so many times with big groups of girls in real life over the year. "No such thing as invisible foundation" I claim.

"Oh yeah, which of us has it on then?"

"You, you, you, you and you"

"jesus, how did you do that?" they say. I shrug.

Truth is: in real life you can easily see foundation and it's off-putting. Its not nearly as invisible as girls like to convince themselves it is.

But it's okay for you to force it on everyone else by saying that people look 'quite plain and like she isn't bothered.' if they don't wear it?

You're contributing to the social peer pressure to wear it with comments like that.

Ive only come across this once or twice in person but on here, loads of people seem to hate makeup with a deep burning passion, guys and girls. Im genuinely curious about this, why would you hate it? Everyone looks better with well applied makeup. Even worse, you get the people who think they have some sort of moral high-ground for not wearing it. Erm no you don't, you just look like you cba to make an effort. So why do so many people hate it on here? I dont mind people not wearing it, I just don't see why people are so aggressively against it.

Im talking about well applied makeup, not badly caked on stuff.

So what, you obviously went to a different area of the states or a different environment than i did, and hence had a different experience. So what's your point?

tbh it depends where you are in the States, if you are in LA for example everyone is going to be made up.

Whether or not they're biased is irrelevant. Make-up can drastically improve appearance, which means you contradicted yourself.

Plus, using biased pictures makes it look as if the guy who you quoted was right.

I'm not forcing them to wear it it's just my idea of what's attractive. I'm not saying everyone has to agree

Problem with make-up is that its hard to buy a perfect shade for you, given the variety of make-up in shop, and it can be pretty time-consuming. Some people also feel more comfortable with no make-up- I wear make-up and I like it, but it also makes me paranoid that it could go wrong- smudge/flake/not match your skin or make you look like a clown. And it does go wrong, regardless of how expensive your stuff is.
And I don't think not wearing make-up means you cba with your appearance. It would be different story if you talked about people who never brush their teeth and hair and wear same jeans for weeks.

You can look better but it doesn't make an ugly person attractive which is what I said. I only used biased pictures because I can't get unbiased ones, they're celebs people love finding bad photos and slagging them off.

Again it can drastically improve appearance, and thus make ugly people appear to be attractive (as seen in your pics, and as I have seen many times). It is not going to turn the most ugly person into the most beautiful person, but ugly to attractive is perfectly possible (again, your pictures are proof). It is easy to find unbiased pictures, you just chose not to.

Once you find it though you can stick to it?

I'm not forcing them to wear it it's just my idea of what's attractive. I'm not saying everyone has to agree

No they aren't proof as only one of those women possibly looks bad without makeup. The others look fine. No it isn't easy to find an unbiased picture of a celebrity, and do not tell me what I choose to do or not to do as if you know me.

But finding it can be hard and expensive and time-consuming Even beauty bloggers (people who spend a lot of money and time using the stuff) often moan that "there is no foundation that matches my fair skin!" or "can't find a blusher that wouldn't make me look like Ronald McDonald!" so I can imagine how hard it could be for someone who just started using it. Someone might not have enough money to experiment a lot either.
Plus, some beauty sales assistants can be scary and off -putting. I met some lovely ones, but there is a lot of condescending ones too.

Clearly the concept of contributing to a social consensus eludes you.

That's down to opinion tbh.. but you have said yourself that those pictures are biased.
You chose biased pictures.. not really anything you can do about it.. is there? We both know it's true.

So you hate people feeling superior for not wearing make-up and then proceed to say that those who don't wear it don't make an effort with their appearance/are lazy. Oh.

I posted on another thread that I wear make-up everyday because I have red scarring after acne, which I like to cover with foundation and powder.

This provoked a few negative reps - I don't understand why. I like to wear make-up, you don't. I don't tell you to wear it so I don't expect to be told not to wear it. Yes I'm insecure, I don't need to be told

That's how I see it with most people. It often (not always) looks quite plain and like she isn't bothered.

That's pretty bad. I agree that people shouldn't be made to feel ugly without it, but I do think it shows making an effort which is good, in men and women. But yeah people shouldn't be made to feel hideous.

You pretend it's normal, you pretend it's expected, you pretend it's natural. it's not. it's a costume for people who are unsatisfied with their own face.

Not this again. I really disagree with you on this point and I don't think we'll ever agree on it because we see it from different perspectives.