Why English players are overrated

I think English players are the most overrated players in the world. Why? Firstly, prices.

Andy Carroll (who always been useless, but credit Newcastle, they somehow got £35M)or Sergio Aguero (£39M), Villa (£35ish). Who would you rather have in your team?

Lescott (£23M) or Vermaelen (£10M) and Mertesaker (£8-10M)? How is Gary Cahill worth £17M with one year left on contract?? How is Gareth Barry playing for England, and how is Downing worth £20M when he's done sweet FA during his career? Milner (27M) or Van der Vaart (8M)? Even David Bentley (credit to spurs, they do piss away money sometimes) at £20M.

Also, a lack of world class players. People say Rooney is, please, DPMO. What has Rooney actually done when compared to a Messi, or a Ronaldo? During the Champions League Final buildup last year, the papers were rating Messi as 10, while Rooney (who hadn't scored for about a year or summat) was a 9. As good as Xavi. Are you high? At the moment, there are NO world class English players. None. Messi and Ronaldo, Xavi and Iniesta change games consistently. Does Rooney? Fair enough, he's good. But definitely not world class. Not even the best English player atm (that's Parker).

Then we come onto the England team. The most overrated national side in the world. What other "big nation" would play Barry? Downing? Milner? Walcott? Lennon? Average players. No other forwards to support Rooney, (Zamora? Is stuff that bad?) But we were begging Manuel Almunia to play in goal?? Greece have won more trophies than England in the last 40 years. And in major competitons, massive hype, like at the World Cup,how Capello's the best England manager ever, then they go out, and he's suddenly useless. Now, somehow pundits are saying that foreign players are ruining the game, but why waste 50M on 2 average English players when you could rebuild a team with that? When you're seeing players like Hernandez and Andre Santos, the West Brom Nigerian guy, internationals, coming in for less than 10M, how much would they be worth if they were English? Just think. Who was the last England international who moved to any club for less than 10M? Who was the last big English player to move abroad? Beckham and Owen. European clubs now know that English players are overpaid, overpriced and overrated.

So that's my rant. Do you agree?

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I think I agree with (almost) everything the OP says, and thats a rarity for me! England fans need to wake up and smell the bacon, they are not the best team in the world and it would have to take a miracle for them to win a major competition, (like Greece '04)!

£35m for Andy Carroll has to be the worst signing I have ever witnessed. Panic buy. All of the other examples you gave, I found myself nodding. The only small detail I disagree with is Walcott. He does have the potential to change games. Certainly not on the same scale as Messi, Ronaldo etc. but he's better than people make out I reckon. But up front, yes, Rooney is good - but he just doesn't score goals. And a striker cannot be called world class if he doesn't score goals, that's the end of it.

England, at international level at least, are the most overrated nation in the world.

Scott Parker (£6m) or Juan Sebastian Veron (£28m)?

Frank Lampard (£11m) or Steve Marlet (£11.5m)?

I think English players are the most overrated players in the world. Why? Firstly, prices.

Andy Carroll (who always been useless, but credit Newcastle, they somehow got £35M)or Sergio Aguero (£39M), Villa (£35ish). Who would you rather have in your team?

Lescott (£23M) or Vermaelen (£10M) and Mertesaker (£8-10M)? How is Gary Cahill worth £17M with one year left on contract?? How is Gareth Barry playing for England, and how is Downing worth £20M when he's done sweet FA during his career? Milner (27M) or Van der Vaart (8M)? Even David Bentley (credit to spurs, they do piss away money sometimes) at £20M.

Also, a lack of world class players. People say Rooney is, please, DPMO. What has Rooney actually done when compared to a Messi, or a Ronaldo? During the Champions League Final buildup last year, the papers were rating Messi as 10, while Rooney (who hadn't scored for about a year or summat) was a 9. As good as Xavi. Are you high? At the moment, there are NO world class English players. None. Messi and Ronaldo, Xavi and Iniesta change games consistently. Does Rooney? Fair enough, he's good. But definitely not world class. Not even the best English player atm (that's Parker).

Then we come onto the England team. The most overrated national side in the world. What other "big nation" would play Barry? Downing? Milner? Walcott? Lennon? Average players. No other forwards to support Rooney, (Zamora? Is stuff that bad?) But we were begging Manuel Almunia to play in goal?? Greece have won more trophies than England in the last 40 years. And in major competitons, massive hype, like at the World Cup,how Capello's the best England manager ever, then they go out, and he's suddenly useless. Now, somehow pundits are saying that foreign players are ruining the game, but why waste 50M on 2 average English players when you could rebuild a team with that? When you're seeing players like Hernandez and Andre Santos, the West Brom Nigerian guy, internationals, coming in for less than 10M, how much would they be worth if they were English? Just think. Who was the last England international who moved to any club for less than 10M? Who was the last big English player to move abroad? Beckham and Owen. European clubs now know that English players are overpaid, overpriced and overrated.

So that's my rant. Do you agree?

English talent is highly sought after in England, so when a team from outside the "big 4" (or "big" 7 now) has a player who gets in the England side it bumps their projected value up.

If your team had a brilliant English player, you wouldn't want to sell them, so your club is in control to an extent. Therefore, the big clubs have to offer an amount that they can't say no to to get their man.

Thats exactly right!

What your theory on the crappy national team and not enough quality english players?

I think its a footballing culture issue from grass roots upwards as well as quality of coaching.

Stevie G at his peak inury free, is he not world class? A.Cole?

Enough of this Rooney isn't world class BS. When he's in form and scorning for fun..no one could doubt he's one of the best in the business. And the city overhead kick proves he does score hugely vital goals. Having said that, I will be the first to admit his is random dips in form are so frustrating and he's as useful as Anne Frank's drumkit when his form dips like this. Its due to these periods of crap form that people start coming out with rubbish like what a **** player he is, worst in the league etc etc. And they forget how good he is when he's playing well.

I don't think anyone actually means it when they say he's the worst in the league - it's just an easy way to slag off a team most people hate