The Liverpool FC Thread VII

It's ridiculous really. When you have so many decisions going against you it's hard to not to blame the ref. He was ****ing atrocious.

That;s the most urgency we've shown in a match in ages but it;s still not good enough, every time we concede our heads drop and we play **** for ages. Kenny needs to sort that out. We should have been showing that much urgency as soon as we went one nil down.

Exactly, we show no fight whatseoever. If we had shown this urgency from the first minute we woulda won this game comfortabely.

But at the same time, any other team and they would have won comfortably anyway. We just can't finish to save our lives. It's extremely irritating that every goalkeeper has the game of their lives at Anfield. We're just so crap when in front of goal, it was annoying back in December when we draw Wigan and Blackburn in the same week but now it's actually infuriating. We need a better version of Kuyt and Carroll.

I don't know about Kenny still. I just don't see him getting sacked before the end of the season tbh.

Exactly, we show no fight whatseoever. If we had shown this urgency from the first minute we woulda won this game comfortabely.

But at the same time, any other team and they would have won comfortably anyway. We just can't finish to save our lives. It's extremely irritating that every goalkeeper has the game of their lives at Anfield. We're just so crap when in front of goal, it was annoying back in December when we draw Wigan and Blackburn in the same week but now it's actually infuriating. We need a better version of Kuyt and Carroll.

I don't know about Kenny still. I just don't see him getting sacked before the end of the season tbh.

That upturn in performance at the end gives me slight hope. Maybe it's confidence that holds us back, we looked a completely different team.

Yeah, damn that unproven Villa keeper!

Can't recall Given making any amazing saves tbh?

Can't recall Given making any amazing saves tbh?

Well I think this slightly eased the pressure on Kenny's sacking, but not too much, still a month left, lots of games yet to decide his fate.

Tbh if I were the owners I would've already made my mind up about his future and will just be leaving it until the end of the season

I know. After we conceded, we looked this shaky at the back, gutless team with no quality whatsoever. We were getting overrun in midfield by Villa for godsake.

In the second half we looked our usual selves. Composed and assured at the back, good build up play but not enough quality in the final 3rd.

I still maintain it's a clinical striker & a ballplaying midfielder that we need + Lucas to come back into the side. And a right winger.

It's not all gloom & doom, poor result but that last half an hour reminded me of how we can play when we're motivated.

Still pretty confident for Everton next week.

But are you really sure we'll buy the right players?

I feel like Kenny will go get Joe Allen and Darren Bent/Defoe and we'll just be crap for another season. We'll hear the same mantra ''you can't get champions league with championship players''. For me, I have no problem with the way Kenny sets up his team. The second half is how we've played for the majority of the season but this not being able to score goals thing as just seeped into the mentality of all the players and they're frightened of the goal. Then you have Lucas, Agger, Johnson and Kelly all out injured exposing our defense. All of that collided and it culminated in all these losses. I believe if you give Kenny the right players they'll be on top of the world but we have not got the right players. He's the one who chose them. That's where I can't defend him and don't have much confidence.

You can't really say whether he'll make the correct signings, but he deserves another season imo and should be given the chance to rectify what's gone wrong this season. There have been enough signs for me that we're trying to create something which can come good. We've outplayed so many teams this season, the likes of City (twice), United, Arsenal, not to mention all of the other teams that we've hammered but not been able to score against. It's not a case of not having players that are good enough imo, or not having enough quality. I think since the Arsenal game it's more been a case of motivation, and that throughout the season there's been a massive lack of confidence within the team. There haven't been enough players willing to take risks, too many players playing within their shell. Surely the management will know where our problems are and how we can go to rectify them. I don't think we'll have another season like this where we'll hit the woodwork 30 times either.

I'm not massively fussed with the obsession concerning last summer's signings. They haven't worked out in terms of firing us to top 4 this season but I still think that Henderson & Downing can be useful assets next season and have shown signs of improvement lately. Downing's been one of our only consistently decent players over the last couple of months and Henderson played well today, kept us ticking nicely + there have been a fair few positive performances from him this season. Adam for what he cost has been worth it imo, he's an effective squad player. Carroll's the one I'm genuinely concerned about, but it should be nailed on that we're signing a striker this summer so he'll either be 3rd choice or sold anyway.

I think next season - IF we can make some decent signings in the summer and Lucas starts it fully fit, we'll be far better off. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but there have been enough signs this season for me to warrant Dalglish another season. I fear that getting another manager in will just have us back to square one. We should give this team a proper chance to bond imo and then see where we are in a year's time. It'll be interesting to see whether FSG see the situation as similar or not.

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