Uk flag without scotland proposal

Original post by Good bloke

That is hardly relevant. It is a well-known brand image, an excellent unique flag and theredictate that we must change. There would still be a united kingdom, by the way - the United Kingdom of England and Northern Ireland - so we could even continue to be called the UK.

Presumably the Scots will have more sense than to leave, though.

What about Wales?

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Dez

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Original post by Playa10

Have they got the flag copyrighted?

The designs are hundreds of years old, probably predating copyright law itself, so they're almost certainly in the public domain by now. :p:

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chrisawhitmore

Original post by Gales

(cut because this post already takes up loads of space)
How about this?

I was thinking of a similar sort of thing, perhaps without the White St. andrews cross behind and with a thin yellow St. Davids cross on top.

or

Ignore the dodgy detail, I used paint :colondollar:

(edited 12 years ago)

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Original post by Gales

What about Wales?

Wales took the dragon being left off personally and unilaterally declared independence. It took its lack of representation on the flag as implied consent from Westminster that it could :tongue:

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Good bloke

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Original post by Gales

What about Wales?

What about Wales? It isn't a country.

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Original post by Good bloke

What about Wales? It isn't a country.

It is according to the Organization for International Standardization and the law which incorporated Wales into England was repealed in 1993.

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Original post by Good bloke

What about Wales? It isn't a country.

Original post by gethsemane342

ISO Status

Beat you

Anyway, the Welsh government and British government recognise Wales as a country too. I don't know why people still dispute it :confused:

And according to the ISO Northern Ireland isn't a country, but rather a province.

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Original post by Gales

Beat you

Anyway, the Welsh government and British government recognise Wales as a country too. I don't know why people still dispute it :confused:

People tend to mix it up with a State and think it has more meaning than it does. I inadvertently got into a debate with someone who thought that country means a lot more than it does and I could not, for the life of me, get across that his reasons for not calling Wales a country were things I'd agree with if someone said Wales was a State. It took about 2 hours for him to realise I was using the legal and official language and not mere semantics...

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Original post by gethsemane342

People tend to mix it up with a State and think it has more meaning than it does. I inadvertently got into a debate with someone who thought that country means a lot more than it does and I could not, for the life of me, get across that his reasons for not calling Wales a country were things I'd agree with if someone said Wales was a State. It took about 2 hours for him to realise I was using the legal and official language and not mere semantics...

Yeah, the word country in place of sovereign state is a little overused nowadays. Many regions around the world can fit the dictionary definition of a country, like Catalonia or Basque Country.

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Snagprophet

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Who was the leader of Wales before the Wales was incorporated into the Kingdom of England? Oh wait, I guess you weren't a united nation after all.

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NDGAARONDI

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Would there be an obligatory duty to remove the blue from the Union Flag should Scotland be independent? We use the cross of St Patrick instead of Northern Ireland's.

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Michael Locke

Original post by Barden

this but no gaps where the diagonals intersect the vertical/horizontal

I dunno, the red might be too prominent then.

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Original post by Snagprophet

Who was the leader of Wales before the Wales was incorporated into the Kingdom of England? Oh wait, I guess you weren't a united nation after all.

How can you have a leader when you're occupied by a foreign nation? Either way, irrelevant point.

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Snagprophet

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Original post by Gales

How can you have a leader when you're occupied by a foreign nation? Either way, irrelevant point.

Because there was never a leader, unless you think you've always been occupied.

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Original post by Gales

How can you have a leader when you're occupied by a foreign nation? Either way, irrelevant point.

Tbf, before the English started taking over (...somewhat simplified), the way Welsh succession law worked meant that Wales was pretty much divided. That's why it was easy for English lords to take over parts of Wales - other parts of Wales wouldn't band together.

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