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Discarding Plus/Minus Sign

I've somewhat of a minor question that's from STEP III Exam 2007 #1, but it's more about constants and the plus/minus sign really.

From Elongar's solution at http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?p=18170264&postcount=21

Question 6, STEP III, 2002

y4(dydx)4=(y21)2\displaystyle y^4 \left( \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} \right)^4 = (y^2 - 1)^2

Standard seperating of variables yields:

y4(y21)2(dy)4=1.(dx)4\displaystyle \frac{y^4}{(y^2 - 1)^2} (\mathrm{d}y)^4 = 1 . (\mathrm{d}x)^4

At this point, we would like to take roots, but notice that we must consider seperately the cases y1| y | \le 1, and y>1| y | > 1, or we will be taking square roots of a negative number.

(a) For y>1| y | > 1:

yy21dy=±1.dx\displaystyle \int \frac{y}{\sqrt{y^2 - 1}} \mathrm{d}y = \int \pm 1 . \mathrm{d}x

Resulting in:

y21=±x+c\displaystyle \sqrt{y^2 - 1} = \pm x + c

y2=(±x+c)2+1\displaystyle y^2 = (\pm x + c)^2 + 1 (?)

Notice that if x[,]x \in [- \infty, \infty], it is no longer necessary to consider ±x\pm x, and we have:

y2=(x+c)2+1\displaystyle \boxed{y^2 = (x + c)^2 + 1}

I'm not seeing why we can discard the plus/minus sign here.

We have (±x+c)2=(x+c)2 or [br](x+c)2=((xc)2=(xc)2 (\pm x + c)^2 = (x + c)^2 \text{ or } [br](- x + c)^2 = (-(x - c)^2 = (x - c)^2 .

Don't we lose this second expression if we discard plus/minus sign?

Thanks.
Reply 1
I think he is going about it completely wrongly!!

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Reply 2
x can be a positive or negative number so there is no need to include ±\pm.

E.g. substitute x=2x=-2 and you get (c2)2+1(c-2)^2+1 and substitute x=2x=2 and you get (2+c)2+1(2+c)^2+1

Does that make sense? I'm not sure if I explained it very well.~


Edit Another way to think about it: You can separate (±x+c)2(\pm x +c)^2 into two cases:

(x+c)2(x+c)^2

(x+c)2(-x+c)^2

But if x is a positive or negative number then just combining the two and writing it as (x+c)2(x+c)^2 (where x can be positive or negative) is sufficient.
(edited 11 years ago)
Reply 3
Thanks a lot.

I actually did your way, mikelbird but I was just curious about this solution.

notnek, I am afraid I am still confused. If I substitute x=2 x = -2 as you did, then (±2+c)2 (\pm 2 + c)^2 .

But (2+c)2(2+c)2 (2 + c)^2 \neq (-2 + c)^2. So how can we combine these two to get (x+c)2 (x + c)^2 ?

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