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C3 January 2013 25/01/2013

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Reply 380
Original post by otrivine
It gave me the correct solutions but some are saying that the method is not right :confused:


hmm im not sure, I think their method is wrong because
1 +cotx doesnt = cosecx
because the identity is
1 +cot^2x =cosec^2x
its when cot and cosec are squared


isnt it? :s-smilie:
Original post by Libby18
hmm im not sure, I think their method is wrong because
1 +cotx doesnt = cosecx
because the identity is
1 +cot^2x =cosec^2x
its when cot and cosec are squared


isnt it? :s-smilie:

yes, 1+cot2x=cosec2x1+cot^2x = cosec^2x
but, we are saying that 1+cosecx=cotx1+cosecx = cotx (without the squared)
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Original post by gaffer dean
yes, 1+cot2x=cosec2x1+cot^2x = cosec^2x
but, we are saying that 1+cotx=cosecx1+cotx = cosecx (without the squared)


did u look at the question
Reply 383
Original post by gaffer dean
yes, 1+cot2x=cosec2x1+cot^2x = cosec^2x
but, we are saying that 1+cotx=cosecx1+cotx = cosecx (without the squared)



ignore me yeah square rooting it all give that :P
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Original post by otrivine
did u look at the question

I think your solutions are wrong to part c, what did you get for b?
Original post by Libby18
hmm im not sure, I think their method is wrong because
1 +cotx doesnt = cosecx
because the identity is
1 +cot^2x =cosec^2x
its when cot and cosec are squared


isnt it? :s-smilie:


the identity is right? havee you solved that question yet the trig, I am sure I did it correct because if it was wrong I would have not got the correct solutions
Original post by gaffer dean
I think your solutions are wrong to part c, what did you get for b?


for c i got the correct and for part B i proved the equation
Reply 387
Original post by otrivine
the identity is right? havee you solved that question yet the trig, I am sure I did it correct because if it was wrong I would have not got the correct solutions


aha ignore me :P the identity is correct :P
Original post by Libby18
hmmm i found the 2003 and 2005 ones easy, I cant reember jan 2012 P

looking at the specimen it looks pretty OK with some of the end questions alittle more challenging (as expected)


I'm confused by your comment about the 2003 paper. C3 was first examined in May/June 2005.
Original post by gaffer dean
I think your solutions are wrong to part c, what did you get for b?


you are right I did make a mistake on the solution but then like how would you do it?
Reply 390
Original post by tiny hobbit
I'm confused by your comment about the 2003 paper. C3 was first examined in May/June 2005.


ohh then I'm confusing it with mechanics
Original post by otrivine
you are right I did make a mistake on the solution but then like how would you do it?

for b i proved 2sin(1/2 θ)[cos(1/2θ) + sin(1/2 θ)]

forc, equate 2sin(1/2 θ)[cos(1/2θ) + sin(1/2 θ)] to 0
therefore, that will get you two solutions
2sin(1/2 θ) = 0, cos(1/2θ) + sin(1/2 θ) = 0
θ = 0 because sin(0) = 0, sorry i'm not sure how to get the second solution.
Original post by Europekidda
Yeah, I'm just agreeing :P

oh, sorry. :colondollar:
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by gaffer dean
for b i proved 2sin(1/2 θ)[cos(1/2θ) + sin(1/2 θ)]

forc, equate 2sin(1/2 θ)[cos(1/2θ) + sin(1/2 θ)] to 0
therefore, that will get you two solutions
2sin(1/2 θ) = 0, cos(1/2θ) + sin(1/2 θ) = 0
θ = 0 because sin(0) = 0, sorry i'm not sure how to get the second solution.


what grade boundary would u give for the specimen paper?
Original post by otrivine
what grade boundary would u give for the specimen paper?

it's always around 90% A*, 80%-A, 70%-B, 60%-C....
(edited 11 years ago)
can anyone explain a technique :- with cos2x there are 3 types of ways/formulas when we prove an equation how do we know which one to chose?
Original post by iknowi2
I go 93 in this. All you have to do is understand the material and being fiddly with the identities.


I think thats where my problem is.....any good resources!?
Original post by otrivine
can anyone explain a technique :- with cos2x there are 3 types of ways/formulas when we prove an equation how do we know which one to chose?


Well if the equation is in terms of cos^2x

the you would use cos2x = 2cos^2(x) -1

if in terms of sin^2x then cos2x = 1 - 2sin^2(x)
Original post by dan94adibi
Well if the equation is in terms of cos^2x

the you would use cos2x = 2cos^2(x) -1

if in terms of sin^2x then cos2x = 1 - 2sin^2(x)


ok so if we have

1+cos2x/1+cos2x prove it will be sec^2x -1 how do we know which one to chose?
Original post by gaffer dean
oh, sorry. :colondollar:
how would you solve cos(1/2θ) + sin(1/2 θ) = 0? for 0<θ<2π


let 1/2 theta = X

cos X + sin X =0

remember your boundary would change to 0<X<pi

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