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Padwas
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Or you could do what MrHappy_J said, but apologise and thank her for helping you first and then go your separate ways if you want. Do it if you really don't like her and don't want to complicate things. But if you do want to get to know her then start a friendly conversation in the maths class you have together :smile:
Original post by So Instinct
No man I know has expected to guess how they feel without being told. No man is expected to 'know' the problem. It's common knowledge that many men often get straight to a point were as females prefer some sweet talk, beating around the bush, a more subtle approach.


But you should know some things without having to be told! :colonhash: A lack of emotional intelligence is so annoying.
Original post by So Instinct
They are a bit though. I find they are nowhere near as straight forward as guys, a lot more of a guessing game, illogical at times too. I agree guys do complain about it all the time though, as do some women.



Are you a guy? If so - you clearly didn't read my post. Try again.


If you're a girl, then fair enough, but you have to admit you're in the minority.


Original post by Machop
What the **** are you on about lol? Women moan and complain far more than men



Are you just stalking my posts to disagree with them for no reason? :lol:

Listen, if you want to make an actual point make one, I'm not wasting time replying if you're just going to go 'lol omgz no' every now and again.
Original post by SophiaKeuning
But you should know some things without having to be told! :colonhash: A lack of emotional intelligence is so annoying.


Yeah but it's not always straight forward, sometimes a woman gets upset over something silly. It's not a big deal, it's just my opinion of how I see things. I do thing that either gender simply wont completely understand the other, I do find I'm on the same page length with most girls until it comes to logical/emotional standpoints, e.g. I prefer to take action than to be upset and feel sorry for myself, or I prefer to talk it out instead of silent treatment.
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Original post by So Instinct
Yeah but it's not always straight forward, sometimes a woman gets upset over something silly. It's not a big deal, it's just my opinion of how I see things. I do thing that either gender simply wont completely understand the other, I do find I'm on the same page length with most girls until it comes to logical/emotional standpoints, e.g. I prefer to take action than to be upset and feel sorry for myself, or I prefer to talk it out instead of silent treatment.


I hope you realise it's unfair to be so sanctimonious and also claim that girls are illogical just because they don't fit in with your logic. It's unfair talk about women in this way, when as a man you only understand things your way. So of course you would think you're 'right'. Of course, I know many girls who blurt out what they think and bring everything out into the open and many guys who remain silent and lock their emotions away so you have no clue what the hell they are thinking/feeling.
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We just like watching men look confused XD
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Original post by AMYC1999
I dunno dude, some people are just like that, girls and boys, some are shy and some are just more confident than others. But seeing that she cried over what you said, she must have liked you.

Alright, tell us how it goes. Start off with something like 'about yesterday..I'm really sorry about that, I said it because I was under the impression you didn't like me and so when you said you liked me I was confused..' and so on, just explain what you thought, but remember not to say anything that might hurt her feelings, good luck!


Finished maths we sat next to each other the entire class but she never looked at me or Ike and I sort of zoned out and said nothing we literally just sat down wrote and left

I will try again at break :frown: why am I so stressed around her I did nothing wrong
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Original post by CJKay
I knew exactly what you meant and your bum does not look fat in that dress. :ninja:

Do women even understand women? I've heard "I don't understand us either" a lot. :lol:


Haha I don't have a big bum to look fat in any dress :awesome:
I feel like I do understand my friends but I think it requires time and effort. I think a generalisation doesn't take into account every female as they all vary. But from my experience, I just think it takes mingling and understanding them to truly know how their mind ticks. For instance, if one of my friends told me to tell her the utter and honest truth, I'll not back away from giving it to her. But another friend might ask for my opinion but will be offended if I say anything. So I can say that I understand the people who I know lol I can't attest to knowing what exactly I want sometimes though :colonhash:

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Original post by Padwas
Finished maths we sat next to each other the entire class but she never looked at me or Ike and I sort of zoned out and said nothing we literally just sat down wrote and left

I will try again at break :frown: why am I so stressed around her I did nothing wrong


Sorry but you do know you're getting relationship advice from a 14 year old?
Because men socialise in a way that makes simple language desirable. Why bother going through hassle of playing silly games? Men have a problem they tell each other and it's solved either with or without fists. Women generally socialise in a way that makes them not want to offend each other, which is unrealistic and often this leads to micro groups forming... they resort to petty bickering and bitching. It often happens a lot in school and this just continues when they age. I just think women don't give a lot away, they don't want to be seen as simple, they want to be seen as something special... but at the same time want to be seen as the same.
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Original post by SophiaKeuning
I hope you realise it's unfair to be so sanctimonious and also claim that girls are illogical just because they don't fit in with your logic. It's unfair talk about women in this way, when as a man you only understand things your way. So of course you would think you're 'right'. Of course, I know many girls who blurt out what they think and bring everything out into the open and many guys who remain silent and lock their emotions away so you have no clue what the hell they are thinking/feeling.


Most guys lock up their emotions, in fact virtually all, it's how we're socialised, remaining stoic, 'boys don't cry', 'man up', 'don't be a girl' etc.

The difference is we're so socialised not to show emotion etc. we don't want you to ask or find out at any point, full stop. We may say 'I'm fine' when we're clearly absolutely devastated about something horrible, but we don't want you to ask any futher, we want to bottle it up, ignore the fact and then let it all out in a serious breakdown 28 years down the line. By contrast women are socialised that they can be emotional, but still have some of the stoicism aspect. So when women say 'I'm fine' it's more like 'I'm clearly not fine due to X horrible event, Jesus no one would be, and I'd like you to ask me again so I can let it all out and use you, the one I love, for emotional support at this difficult time like any vaguely emotionally functional human being would'. It takes a while for guys to work out that your 'I'm fine' means 'No I'm not, ask me further and help me through this' when our 'I'm fine' means 'Clearly I'm not but I don't want to to give away that fact and am instead off to sit on my own, stew about it and maybe go get excessively aggressive with a punch bag down the gym later if things are really getting to me'.


Do I think men are born naturally less emotional than women? No, though the nature of the menstrual cycle and what it does to your hormone levels means there are occasions where women are more susceptible to wild swings in emotions, we're lucky enough to have steady hormone levels. However, it's very hard to break the patterns of such deep and ingrained socialisation, most people never do, and in a relationship I think it takes a long time for both parties to figure out exactly what the effects are on each other.
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Original post by Ladyliesel
I think women appear more complicated because of your socialisation. For example, in traditional courtship women have been encouraged to be the chased ones. They have to hold back for fear of being 'slutty' and be hard-to-get, while being flirty. Society encourages people to play mind games in certain situations and it's unnecessary. It sends mixed messages.


Very good point

I think women are more emotional too. They empathise more and have more compassion.

This is just a generalisation though.
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Original post by 2ndClass
Sorry but you do know you're getting relationship advice from a 14 year old?


Yes but a 14 girl is equivalent to a 40 year old man when it comes to dealing with women :wink:
Original post by 2ndClass
Sorry but you do know you're getting relationship advice from a 14 year old?

At least I tried and I'm going to be 15 actually in less than 3 weeks.
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Reply 75
Yeah I am giving up on girls this year I spoke to her and told her I was sorry she asked if it was joking about her breeding to change I said in the nicest possible way I was not and she needed to mature a bit she asked if I liked her I said maybe she hot me again and walked off

it it is almost exactly the same as yesterday just that I was hit twice instead of once
Original post by Padwas
Yeah I am giving up on girls this year I spoke to her and told her I was sorry she asked if it was joking about her breeding to change I said in the nicest possible way I was not and she needed to mature a bit she asked if I liked her I said maybe she hot me again and walked off

it it is almost exactly the same as yesterday just that I was hit twice instead of once


Well at least you apologised, did you say that you thought she hated you and got the impression of that and thus didn't really like her much yourself.

Good idea, don't think about her or feel guilty, you did apologise, I think you're on holiday now, at least you won't have to see her around for a while.
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Original post by AMYC1999
Well at least you apologised, did you say that you thought she hated you and got the impression of that and thus didn't really like her much yourself.

Good idea, don't think about her or feel guilty, you did apologise, I think you're on holiday now, at least you won't have to see her around for a while.


lol of all the days you pick to reply you choose today. we met again at swimming today me and my friend met her and her friend. lets just say there was no love lost. lol
Original post by Padwas
lol of all the days you pick to reply you choose today. we met again at swimming today me and my friend met her and her friend. lets just say there was no love lost. lol


Hey you didn't quote so I didn't know you replied. But then I saw your thread .. 'what is it with women and the word cute' and then remembered and checked :smile:

Must have been pretty awkward, but just try and forget about her :smile:
Your cuteness blinds you from the truth dude.

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