Richer parents should pay for state school education
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Original post by imtelling
if you earned that sort of money have no idea why you would want to send your children to state education anyway.
Some parents send their children to state schools and hire private tutors for them (and of course ones who teach subjects which are not readily available in state schools).
Original post by CEKTOP
Still a socialist ****, 80k is not that much in London, especially given the fact that you have to give at least a third of it away to subsidise beer and fags for chavs along with jobless immigrants who shouldn't be in the country in the first place.
How is trying to engineer policies that promote the financial success of your own institution socialist?! Is the Big 4 supporting more complex tax socialist? Or law firms supporting more complicated laws? Seems cheerfully capitalist to me.
Original post by imtelling
if you earned that sort of money have no idea why you would want to send your children to state education anyway.
You clearly haven't looked much into private school fees :')
Original post by jadoreétudier
The thought of private schools kinda makes me sick. State school standards should be raised, but I guess that requires money.
I don't know where this figure of £20,000 is coming from. I thought my state school was given just over £5000 from the council for each pupil each year. Although I'm not really sure what that covers, but I thought it was everything including teachers' salaries.
I don't know where this figure of £20,000 is coming from. I thought my state school was given just over £5000 from the council for each pupil each year. Although I'm not really sure what that covers, but I thought it was everything including teachers' salaries.
Overreaction, much? 
Original post by Ceryni Overreaction, much?
Overreaction, much? I don't think so. It's sickening that children/teenagers can have a much better education than others just because their parents can afford to pay for it.
Original post by CEKTOP
Hang the socialist **** I say. Richer people contribute more in taxes already.
I doubt that Dr Anthony Seldon, headmaster of Winchester College and son of Dr Arthur Seldon, Founder-President of the Institute for Economic Affairs, is in fact a socialist.
I'm left-wing, but even I think that's a stupid idea. I go to one of the top state schools in my local area, and yes the majority of people are middle class. However, there's nothing stopping people from lower classes applying. If you started to charge middle class parents, it won't improve the weaker state schools, it'll just encourage more parents to send their children to private schools, causing the state schools to be even weaker.
Also, as I come from a lower-class family, but attend a high achieving school with a predominately middle-class society, this would affect my school and the students/parents considerably.
Also, as I come from a lower-class family, but attend a high achieving school with a predominately middle-class society, this would affect my school and the students/parents considerably.
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Wtf?
They're already being taxed, why add extra burden?
They're already being taxed, why add extra burden?
by "pay" you mean pay upfront *and* pay the tax? why should they pay twice for the same thing?
Original post by Le Nombre
How is trying to engineer policies that promote the financial success of your own institution socialist?! Is the Big 4 supporting more complex tax socialist? Or law firms supporting more complicated laws? Seems cheerfully capitalist to me.
Call this inadvertent socialism if you want.
Original post by Observatory
I doubt that Dr Anthony Seldon, headmaster of Winchester College and son of Dr Arthur Seldon, Founder-President of the Institute for Economic Affairs, is in fact a socialist.
As previously said, he is an inadvertent socialist.
I'm sorry but LORD ADONIS? Excuse my moment of childish banter....
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
Anyway, no I don't agree with the study. Just because a child from a less financially well off background gets into a private school doesn't mean they are going to do the best possible. Call me traditionalist of whatever, but being someone from a working class background, firstly I never thought of the idea I was at a state school so I'd do worse, and secondly- you can thrive in state education just fine. You articulate your own future, going to a private school doesn't contribute to that.
Oh, and perhaps some parents who earn over 80k might want their child to go to a state school to mix with other people and still see how 'lucky' they are, or how well they can do under state education? I personally think there is no point in private schools, you should mix with people.
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
Anyway, no I don't agree with the study. Just because a child from a less financially well off background gets into a private school doesn't mean they are going to do the best possible. Call me traditionalist of whatever, but being someone from a working class background, firstly I never thought of the idea I was at a state school so I'd do worse, and secondly- you can thrive in state education just fine. You articulate your own future, going to a private school doesn't contribute to that.
Oh, and perhaps some parents who earn over 80k might want their child to go to a state school to mix with other people and still see how 'lucky' they are, or how well they can do under state education? I personally think there is no point in private schools, you should mix with people.
Original post by CEKTOP
As previously said, he is an inadvertent socialist.
I don't think means testing is particularly socialist even in principle. Remember for instance that it was the left complaining about the coalition's decision to remove child benefit for high earners, for instance.
Stupid, unfair idea state is state for a reason.
Though I have to laugh at the people saying it's easy to thrive in state schools. Uhm no, not always. I went to one of the worst schools in the whole county and I did manage to get into my first choice uni but not without wanting to pull my hair out. I hated it. The environment for disgraceful, quite like a zoo as someone has said before, no control over these pupils who didn't even want to be there. Trying to learn while people are getting shouted at constantly and things thrown about, it's difficult. Anybody that says otherwise is niave.
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Though I have to laugh at the people saying it's easy to thrive in state schools. Uhm no, not always. I went to one of the worst schools in the whole county and I did manage to get into my first choice uni but not without wanting to pull my hair out. I hated it. The environment for disgraceful, quite like a zoo as someone has said before, no control over these pupils who didn't even want to be there. Trying to learn while people are getting shouted at constantly and things thrown about, it's difficult. Anybody that says otherwise is niave.
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Original post by weirdnessandcoffee
I'm sorry but LORD ADONIS? Excuse my moment of childish banter....
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
Anyway, no I don't agree with the study. Just because a child from a less financially well off background gets into a private school doesn't mean they are going to do the best possible. Call me traditionalist of whatever, but being someone from a working class background, firstly I never thought of the idea I was at a state school so I'd do worse, and secondly- you can thrive in state education just fine. You articulate your own future, going to a private school doesn't contribute to that.
Oh, and perhaps some parents who earn over 80k might want their child to go to a state school to mix with other people and still see how 'lucky' they are, or how well they can do under state education? I personally think there is no point in private schools, you should mix with people.
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
Anyway, no I don't agree with the study. Just because a child from a less financially well off background gets into a private school doesn't mean they are going to do the best possible. Call me traditionalist of whatever, but being someone from a working class background, firstly I never thought of the idea I was at a state school so I'd do worse, and secondly- you can thrive in state education just fine. You articulate your own future, going to a private school doesn't contribute to that.
Oh, and perhaps some parents who earn over 80k might want their child to go to a state school to mix with other people and still see how 'lucky' they are, or how well they can do under state education? I personally think there is no point in private schools, you should mix with people.
the reasons you gave for why parents who earn over 80k might want their kid to go state school are lol.
For me the bottom line is if you have the money you should send your kid to a private school.
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Original post by dead101
Stupid, unfair idea state is state for a reason.
Though I have to laugh at the people saying it's easy to thrive in state schools. Uhm no, not always. I went to one of the worst schools in the whole county and I did manage to get into my first choice uni but not without wanting to pull my hair out. I hated it. The environment for disgraceful, quite like a zoo as someone has said before, no control over these pupils who didn't even want to be there. Trying to learn while people are getting shouted at constantly and things thrown about, it's difficult. Anybody that says otherwise is niave.
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Though I have to laugh at the people saying it's easy to thrive in state schools. Uhm no, not always. I went to one of the worst schools in the whole county and I did manage to get into my first choice uni but not without wanting to pull my hair out. I hated it. The environment for disgraceful, quite like a zoo as someone has said before, no control over these pupils who didn't even want to be there. Trying to learn while people are getting shouted at constantly and things thrown about, it's difficult. Anybody that says otherwise is niave.
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Spot on!
If you made people may for state school education they would all go to private schools, where most of the people who earn the same are anyway. And that would just make the state schools suffer more.
Original post by Foo.mp3
Higher earners already do pay for state education, it's called taxes. Derp.
lol
this is basically the end of the issue imho.
Original post by weirdnessandcoffee
I'm sorry but LORD ADONIS? Excuse my moment of childish banter....
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
Anyway, no I don't agree with the study. Just because a child from a less financially well off background gets into a private school doesn't mean they are going to do the best possible. Call me traditionalist of whatever, but being someone from a working class background, firstly I never thought of the idea I was at a state school so I'd do worse, and secondly- you can thrive in state education just fine. You articulate your own future, going to a private school doesn't contribute to that.
Oh, and perhaps some parents who earn over 80k might want their child to go to a state school to mix with other people and still see how 'lucky' they are, or how well they can do under state education? I personally think there is no point in private schools, you should mix with people.
AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
Anyway, no I don't agree with the study. Just because a child from a less financially well off background gets into a private school doesn't mean they are going to do the best possible. Call me traditionalist of whatever, but being someone from a working class background, firstly I never thought of the idea I was at a state school so I'd do worse, and secondly- you can thrive in state education just fine. You articulate your own future, going to a private school doesn't contribute to that.
Oh, and perhaps some parents who earn over 80k might want their child to go to a state school to mix with other people and still see how 'lucky' they are, or how well they can do under state education? I personally think there is no point in private schools, you should mix with people.
There is clearly a point in private schools. It's so wealthy parents can pay for a better education for your children, and you can't say that people in private schools don't do better.
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