Would the removal of CHAVS make Britain a safer place?

Yeah I really fail to see the distinction between this and say, 'working class black people'.

Maybe it does but that is a problem of society, and removing the "poor" from this nation would just make a new group the "poor people." I'm not sure how I personally would define chav, but my question was more aimed at the OP, so I could answer their question.

This doesn't have to do with Burberry. This has to do with a culture of criminality, and like any other culture, it has its won standards of dress, lifestyle etc. that set it apart.

Yeah, I was just trying to link council house to poor (although thats a bit obvious anyway)...granted, there will always be poor people and miscreants, but we can reduce the problem. It would help if the state stopped rewarding people with houses and money simply for procreating (especially at a young age). Just perpetuates things.

yeah! Let them and their new born child die on the streets! serve em right for being poor.

Yeah, I was just trying to link council house to poor (although thats a bit obvious anyway)...granted, there will always be poor people and miscreants, but we can reduce the problem. It would help if the state stopped rewarding people with houses and money simply for procreating (especially at a young age). Just perpetuates things.

Erm...no, thats not quite what I was referring to. Teenagers getting themselves pregnant and then being rewarded with a house and benefits isnt helping..

And the solution is...?

They arent homeless if theyre living in the parental home.

The solution is education, and greater promotion of contraceptives.

Yes, but removing the social safety net would not help, only make things a lot worse

also what if the parental home isn't big enough?

Giving them 15k and a house isnt necessary though.

There is a general lack of housing (especially in the South East where I live). I feel there are people more in need of it than pregnant chavs.

Yes, there are some sensible teenagers who got pregnant by no fault of their own due to a rare failed pill or something, but theyre in the minority I feel (and cant really be described as chavs anyway).

Giving them 15k and a house isnt necessary though.



There is a general lack of housing (especially in the South East where I live). I feel there are people more in need of it than pregnant chavs.

Yes, there are some sensible teenagers who got pregnant by no fault of their own due to a rare failed pill or something, but theyre in the minority I feel (and cant really be described as chavs anyway).

yeah! Let them and their new born child die on the streets! serve em right for being poor.

RACIST! (sorry: I was pointing out the difference).

Where does your 15k figuure come from? IIRC, jobseekers' allowance is about £80 per week.

Maybe so, but that is a lack of housing of the standard people want, social housing is there for people who can't afford anything

who deserves the social housing more in your opinion?

I don't think the state "rewards people" for procreating. People with families need housing. Would you rather that teenage mothers and their children were thrown out on to the street and made homeless? The state is being socially responsible by making sure that society's most vulnerable, the young and poor (especially the child who never asked to be born to a poor mother), have a safe home to live in.

A single mother with children can claim other benefits as well. Add that to a rent-free home, council tax benefit and it really does rack up.



Right, but as I said, why not live in the parental home? I also said prevention is better than cure (education and better promotion of contraception).



Families.

Getting pregnant at 16 isn't caused by your economic background, its stupidity. I'm sure plenty of rich girls get pregnant because of the same lack of common-sense

It has nothing to do with them being poor...people need to take responsibility for their own mistakes and actions.

I disagree with you there.

more money = better education = less likely to go out and get pregnant at 16.

The poverty also makes these girls want their own house, which is a very attractive idea if you've grown up in a council house with your parents.

I think education is the answer.