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Farage accepts Clegg invitation for live EU debate

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Reply 20
Original post by TimmonaPortella
It turns out it was Janice Atkinson. Someone has helpfully collected together all her stuttering here:



(Though she is perfectly right on smoking in cars, imho)


My bad! I remember her now. Other than Farage, Nuttall usually makes the public appearances - nice to see someone else for a change - and a woman as well, who'd have thought it?!

Original post by TimmonaPortella


I must say I rather enjoy Godfrey Bloom, but he's gone, sadly. Obviously he has some silly views, but he's quite funny and occasionally say something absolutely right, e.g.:



Godfrey certainly is a colourful character. Don't agree with him on many issues but (like Farage), he seems the type that you could actually have a normal conversation with. God knows what sort of conversation it would be, but he'd probably be a bit more interesting than most of politicians.

He was in the news today for refusing to withdraw comments he made that members of an EU commission should be publicly hanged :rolleyes:
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Reply 21
I genuinely can't wait for this spectacular piece of television. I can imagine both will perform well, but Clegg will have to change from his reasonable-bloke-in-the-middle act that served him so well in the Prime Ministerial debates in 2010.
Reply 22
Strong , truthful arguments ? From a man who dropped his centre piece policy of PR like a dung when he had the slightest whiff of getting into government?
Reply 23
I don't like Nick but I like Nigel. For the sake of all that is good, I hope Cleggy buries him and UKIP.

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Reply 24
Original post by TimmonaPortella
It turns out it was Janice Atkinson. Someone has helpfully collected together all her stuttering here:




I thought she had something wrong with her. She was so simple.

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Farage is a great speaker and due to his working experience in the real world can relate to many who share similar views. He knows perfectly how to address his people, his audience and use non political language to win them over. Clegg on the other hand will use the basic, obvious and predictable rhetoric of many politicians which will leave many feeling distant and somewhat disillusioned. I cant help but feel that Farage is going to leave him looking very foolish.

I can see Farage embarrassing him to be honest. The only way Clegg stands a chance is by using something else around the time to tarnish UKIP's image and leaving Farage red faced. Clegg needs something up his sleeve because if he doesn't then Farage is going to wipe the floor with him. There's not an orator in politics who's as good as Farage currently.

He doesn't always speak this political rhetoric but knows how to relate to the average person to get their support which is why UKIP has grown. Clegg will have the support of the EU who will want the UK to remain for their own benefit but will he have the support of the British public? Im not so sure, especially considering he's been seen as someone with little backbone already.

Im backing Farage on this one. You may disagree with his style or policies or wants for Britain but he knows how to talk the talk.
Original post by Ace123
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26287197

After Clegg asked Farage yesterday to participate in debate with him over Eu for May's election Farage has now agreed to take part saying he can hardly wait

So does Clegg stand a chance on a debate with Farage solely on the EU? I have a feeling the debate is going to make or break the libdems and ukip


Hahahahah, Clegg is ****ed.
Original post by Obiejess
Farage is going to use ****ty obvious rhetoric and make no decent point other than talking about how the EU eat newborn babies, Clegg is going to trip over himself and **** his pants.

#eudebate

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Clegg is ****ed.
Go on Nige! Smash the soft-headed liberal!
Reply 29
Original post by Ace123
very true the EU is very dependent on UK money and we are one of the only big contributors besides Germany/France if we left they will be in troubke without our £55mil a day. The only possible argument Clegg could make Brits will listen to is on trade but the EU would never stop it because the EU economies will collapse in weeks without UK considering the massive deficits we have with almost all EU nations


We don't contribute £55 million a day to the EU; as of 2012 we paid an EU contribution of £36 million a day, but that's our total contribution we get a significant portion of our contribution back as the EU funds projects in the UK.

The net contribution for 2012 was £20 million a day or £7.3 Billion a year.
You're right the EU wouldn't stop trading with us, we could still be a member of the Free trade zone except without any say in EU regulations.
Reply 30
Original post by Drowzy
We don't contribute £55 million a day to the EU; as of 2012 we paid an EU contribution of £36 million a day, but that's our total contribution we get a significant portion of our contribution back as the EU funds projects in the UK.

The net contribution for 2012 was £20 million a day or £7.3 Billion a year.
You're right the EU wouldn't stop trading with us, we could still be a member of the Free trade zone except without any say in EU regulations.


wrong for 2012 (before 2 big budget increases, no more recent figures published) the UK's contribution to the EU was over £20 billion (the net was £12.2 before the biug budget increases)= up 13% since 2011 and doubling since financial crisis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2382275/We-bankroll-EU-tune-20bn-Amount-Britain-contributes-13-year.html

The £12.2 billion net figure was for 2012 and has massively increase since then increasing by another £10 billion for the next five years- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/budget/10499092/Britains-EU-contribution-to-jump-by-10bn-as-taxpayers-carry-burden-of-ailing-eurozone.html

In 2012 gross contribution was £55 million a day, net was £33.5 million, in 2013 the budget increased, the EU also had to ask member states for additional funds in in 2013 and in 2014 the next budget comes in which is another increase so gross contribution will be around £60mil a day and around £40 million net
Reply 31
Go Nigel! :heart:

I wonder how many times Farage will say 'I agree with Nick'?!
Reply 32
Original post by Ace123
wrong for 2012 (before 2 big budget increases, no more recent figures published) the UK's contribution to the EU was over £20 billion (the net was £12.2 before the biug budget increases)= up 13% since 2011 and doubling since financial crisis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2382275/We-bankroll-EU-tune-20bn-Amount-Britain-contributes-13-year.html

The £12.2 billion net figure was for 2012 and has massively increase since then increasing by another £10 billion for the next five years- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/budget/10499092/Britains-EU-contribution-to-jump-by-10bn-as-taxpayers-carry-burden-of-ailing-eurozone.html

In 2012 gross contribution was £55 million a day, net was £33.5 million, in 2013 the budget increased, the EU also had to ask member states for additional funds in in 2013 and in 2014 the next budget comes in which is another increase so gross contribution will be around £60mil a day and around £40 million net


No my figures for 2012 were correct, here is a link to the 2012 EU budget; http://www.openeurope.org.uk/Content/Documents/2012EUbudget_new.pdf

Using the Daily mail and the Telegraph as a sources for EU funding is absurd.
Reply 33
Original post by Drowzy
No my figures for 2012 were correct, here is a link to the 2012 EU budget; http://www.openeurope.org.uk/Content/Documents/2012EUbudget_new.pdf

Using the Daily mail and the Telegraph as a sources for EU funding is absurd.


Using Open Europe is just as absurd as quoting the Daily Mail and the Telegraph as sources for EU funding.
Clegg will rip him to shreds (and nobody who likes UKIP/Farage will care, just like they ignore how badly he does in any pressing interviews or debates)
I am both pro-Europe and euro-skeptic, a member of the Labour Party and Fabian Society so naturally more sympathetic towards the former view.

Farage is going to wipe the floor with Clegg.
Original post by SciFiRory
Clegg will rip him to shreds (and nobody who likes UKIP/Farage will care, just like they ignore how badly he does in any pressing interviews or debates)


Eh? Clegg is a lightweight, a political non-entity of the first order. He has none of Farage's cunning or natural charm. He's basically a sleazy, pole-scaling little turd, widely despised in the country and with good reason.

I'll put my money on Farage, despite my disgust for UKIP
Original post by MostUncivilised
Eh? Clegg is a lightweight, a political non-entity of the first order. He has none of Farage's cunning or natural charm. He's basically a sleazy, pole-scaling little turd, widely despised in the country and with good reason.

I'll put my money on Farage, despite my disgust for UKIP


he knows how to debate and present his points well though, he won the election debates...he also will know his stuff on the EU as he used to be an MEP, Farage doesn't even turn up to do the job he is paid for and has been shown up in the past for not even knowing his own policies, if Clegg doesn't destroy him then it will have been a big off day for Nick that's for sure.
Original post by Mickey O'Neil

I can see Farage embarrassing him to be honest. The only way Clegg stands a chance is by using something else around the time to tarnish UKIP's image and leaving Farage red faced. Clegg needs something up his sleeve because if he doesn't then Farage is going to wipe the floor with him. There's not an orator in politics who's as good as Farage currently.


I completely agree with you.

I'm from the opposite side of politics, I'm a socialist and a Fabian, a member of the Labour Party and a trade unionist, and I don't think there's a man in politics today who can do attractive, populist politics like Farage. I find myself nodding in agreement, despite myself, when I hear him speak.

He knows how to move the average person. Clegg, on the other hand, is a machine politician. He's execrable and he's despised by the vast majority of Britons, he has a tin-ear when it comes to political judgment. Farage is going to destroy him
Original post by SciFiRory
he knows how to debate and present his points well though, he won the election debates...he also will know his stuff on the EU as he used to be an MEP, Farage doesn't even turn up to do the job he is paid for and has been shown up in the past for not even knowing his own policies, if Clegg doesn't destroy him then it will have been a big off day for Nick that's for sure.


:hahaha: Nick is a joke and a political lightweight. He basically destroyed the Liberal Democrat Party; under his tenure, they will see a 2/3rd reduction in their parliamentary delegation. He's a smarmy, backstabbing toad, his only political conviction is "The ends justify the means".

He has no charm, no ideological red lines, he's just a plump little squirming bag of appetites. I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum to Farage, but I say now that Farage will utterly destroy Clegg. At least Farage has principles.

Clegg is the political equivalent of a streetwalker, a hooker looking for a trick (hence his desperate attempt to woo the Labour Party for a coalition next parliament)
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