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OCR A2 English Literature, F663/01: Drama & Poetry pre-1800, 6 June 2014

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Original post by AMKrishnan
Yeah I agree, examiners really can't check every single quote! I'm gonna do that in case of emergency, but I'll certainly try to remember REAL critics haha!


Last resort :smile:


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Hi all,

Presumably like the rest of you, the Easter revision pilgrimage has just begun! I wish you all the best of luck!

I'm doing Volpone/Paradise Lost & King Lear.

Volpone/Paradise Lost have clicked wonderfully and am more than happy to share a thought to those of whom are pondering.

With regards to King Lear, I have a few qualms.

1) Does anyone have any exemplar/A* essays on word documents?
2) Does anyone have any not just useful, but pertinent contextual points?
3) Which character/theme was last year focused upon? (Praying it was Kent....)
4) Which points during the play are best for structural analysis? (Iambic meter analysis etc) (For that matter, this question applies to Volpone/Paradise Lost too)
Original post by cbarrasford17
Hi all,

Presumably like the rest of you, the Easter revision pilgrimage has just begun! I wish you all the best of luck!

I'm doing Volpone/Paradise Lost & King Lear.

Volpone/Paradise Lost have clicked wonderfully and am more than happy to share a thought to those of whom are pondering.

With regards to King Lear, I have a few qualms.

1) Does anyone have any exemplar/A* essays on word documents?
2) Does anyone have any not just useful, but pertinent contextual points?
3) Which character/theme was last year focused upon? (Praying it was Kent....)
4) Which points during the play are best for structural analysis? (Iambic meter analysis etc) (For that matter, this question applies to Volpone/Paradise Lost too)


Hi I'm doing volpone and PL too! Have you done any practice essays because there aren't many past papers? And do you know how we're supposed to choose questions because our teacher hasn't given us any advice? Also do you need to know a lot of critics for the comparison bit? Thanks :smile:
Original post by lightningdoritos
Hi I'm doing volpone and PL too! Have you done any practice essays because there aren't many past papers? And do you know how we're supposed to choose questions because our teacher hasn't given us any advice? Also do you need to know a lot of critics for the comparison bit? Thanks :smile:


For P.D/Volpone I've only done an essay on Avarice, Punishment and Seduction. In Easter I'm planning on two further essays and three plans. In the exam you will have 6 choices to which at least one will be specifically tailored for your texts (as the whole country can face the same questions with differing texts). In terms of picking the questions on the day, make sure you can evaluate the quote fully for both sides of the argument (agree/disagree) and scrutinize or as examiners say 'pull apart' at least one key word from the question.

Yes, for complete safety and to give the examiner every right to accredit you, aim for one critic per point. It's not a chore memorizing them as they're brief snippets of extended quotes which reinforce your argument thus making it more intelligent and intelligible.
Original post by cbarrasford17
For P.D/Volpone I've only done an essay on Avarice, Punishment and Seduction. In Easter I'm planning on two further essays and three plans. In the exam you will have 6 choices to which at least one will be specifically tailored for your texts (as the whole country can face the same questions with differing texts). In terms of picking the questions on the day, make sure you can evaluate the quote fully for both sides of the argument (agree/disagree) and scrutinize or as examiners say 'pull apart' at least one key word from the question.

Yes, for complete safety and to give the examiner every right to accredit you, aim for one critic per point. It's not a chore memorizing them as they're brief snippets of extended quotes which reinforce your argument thus making it more intelligent and intelligible.

OKay thanks a lot! In terms of essay structure do you mention both texts in every paragraph?
Structure varies from one to another. For me, I find aiming for 4 wholesome points suits me well. Typically this is how my plan would look -

1) Agree with the question
2) Disagree with the question
3) Agree/Disagree depending on a variable e.g if the question was on seduction you could say it's dependent on whether it's avaricious lust or romantic lust.
4) Scrutinize a word from the question
Hi guys are any of you doing shakespeare's King Lear along side Burial at Thebes and Rape of the Lock?

What do you predict will come up? :smile:
Does anyone know what the A* boundary usually is? We've just had mock exams and me and a couple of girls got 28 on section A and 28 on section B and the teachers have no idea if that's an A* or not! It's a little harsh if it isn't, that gives us hardly any room!😂😭


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Original post by Elle97
Does anyone know what the A* boundary usually is? We've just had mock exams and me and a couple of girls got 28 on section A and 28 on section B and the teachers have no idea if that's an A* or not! It's a little harsh if it isn't, that gives us hardly any room!������������


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An A* isn't technically a published grade for the exam, but you'd need 57/60 for an A* so thats basically 28 and 29. :smile:
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I'm doing The White Devil and Paradise Lost for the comparison, and I'm finding it so difficult to find any links, does anyone have any suggestions? Also like other people has said does anyone have any exemplar essays, I've had massive issues with teachers and so desperately trying to catch upnow!
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How is everyone going about with context? It's worth 10 marks in here, so do we need loads of context for both texts?
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I'm doing the same and it's impossible! there are no exemplar essays for them either which really sucks... I feel like i hardly know anything about the texts when i try and compare them
Original post by lambmo
I'm doing the same and it's impossible! there are no exemplar essays for them either which really sucks... I feel like i hardly know anything about the texts when i try and compare them

It's a massive problem! I need some just general comparative points and I think I'll try and go from there, have you found any good websites?
Hi everyone for the Shakespeare part do you think it's okay to structure an essay by doing a paragraph on each character if the question is on a theme?
So for example:
Intro

Para on Antony
Para on Caesar
Para on Cleo

Conclusion
Original post by lightningdoritos
Hi everyone for the Shakespeare part do you think it's okay to structure an essay by doing a paragraph on each character if the question is on a theme?
So for example:
Intro

Para on Antony
Para on Caesar
Para on Cleo

Conclusion



Yeah thats what I do :smile: but if its a character qs then of course only the one character
Is it true that you don't get any marks for critics on the comparison section? My teacher said you can use them to strengthen your argument but they don't get you any AO3 marks....it's all comparison apparently
Original post by lightningdoritos
Is it true that you don't get any marks for critics on the comparison section? My teacher said you can use them to strengthen your argument but they don't get you any AO3 marks....it's all comparison apparently


Nope that's incorrect. Comparison marks are MORE WEIGHTED. But if you want higher marks, you'll need critics. The marks for AO3 in that section are 10, so imagine it as maybe 7/10 being for comparison and 3/10 for Critics.

In an official OCR document to aid the understanding of teachers with this paper. they say the following:

'In the Poetry and Drama section, both strands of AO3 can be rewarded, but the 'comparison' strand is dominant'.
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Does anyone really think Kent could come up for the Lear question? I doubt I'd have much to write about him... and finding relevant critics and context would be difficult

I really hope either the Fool or Edmund comes up. Or something to do with family/relationships!
Original post by cbarrasford17
Hi all,

Presumably like the rest of you, the Easter revision pilgrimage has just begun! I wish you all the best of luck!

I'm doing Volpone/Paradise Lost & King Lear.

Volpone/Paradise Lost have clicked wonderfully and am more than happy to share a thought to those of whom are pondering.

With regards to King Lear, I have a few qualms.

1) Does anyone have any exemplar/A* essays on word documents?
2) Does anyone have any not just useful, but pertinent contextual points?
3) Which character/theme was last year focused upon? (Praying it was Kent....)
4) Which points during the play are best for structural analysis? (Iambic meter analysis etc) (For that matter, this question applies to Volpone/Paradise Lost too)


What are you using for your main contextual points for Volp/PL?
Hey everyone I am doing Volpone/William Blake and King Lear
Does anyone have any predictions?

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