The Chelsea F.C. Thread VI

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*Ends the post saying he doesn't troll yet claims his club need two players to finish higher than third, even though they have signed three world class players and have another WC player returning from a loan spell*

Anything less than top two with you current squad would be underperforming. A midfield destroyer (Mascherano/Martinez/Carvalho) would make you favourites.

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We need another central midfielder and another right winger.

Don't see why we're favourites imo. You want me to be an arrogant Chelsea fan thinking we'll win every game, well I'm not that confident in my team mate sorry.

If Fabregas is injured. What happens? I'm not too worried about the striker situation.

Also Fabregas has never been good enough to be the main man for a team challenging for the top trophies. He's a good vital cog in the chelsea behemoth but to make him the main man for a team challenging for the PL and the CL. That's risky. He's a very good player though but we can't make the system based on him, the system is based on Hazard only and he's there as one of various supporting acts.

Same way Ozil was a supporting act for Ronaldo and Benzema Fabregas is a supporting act for Hazard and Costa.

We don't need a midfield destroyer. We have Matic, failing that Ramires and Mikel are very good backups for that role.

We need a possession retainer/box to box midfielder. Which is why I wanted Tiago badly. We also need a right winger as Willian is stealing a career, Salah is **** and Schurrle is an effective option and that's it. Schurrle is not that good a footballer, he's just a good interpretor of space who can finish, he's not on the level of Muller in that regard, more on Theo Walcotts level, which is not enough to be challenging for titles. Honestly we should go and buy Di Maria. I agree with AnharM here. He's available most likely.

Disagree that Fabregas is not good enough to be the main man for a team challenging for the title etc, Arsenal had good runs and game close to it with him as the centre piece of the team. He doesn't need to be that at CFC due to Hazard but he can still supply Costa and Schurrle who can easily get 50 goals between them with him as the #10. This is a guy that propelled Adebayor to a 30 goal season.

Jam, all you have to do is make a Premier League strongest XI to realise just how good Chelsea's team is right now. Courtois, Luis, Terry, Hazard and arguably Fabregas would all be in it. Five players.

Fabregas nope.

4 players at best. Now City have Kompany, Zabaleta, Fernandinho, Toure, Silva, Aguero who would make the first 11.

Courtois
Zabaleta Terry Kosc/Komp Luis
X Yaya X
Sanchez Aguero Hazard

The two X's are up for debate. Ramsey, Fernandinho, Fabregas, Matic, Silva, Ozil, Mata all have an argument. But those 9 players are dead certs - four of which are Chelsea. Not much between Koscielny and Kompany.

Sturridge ain't there? Why?

Also Sanchez should not be on this list.

Because almost every team only plays with one centre forward. Is he better than Aguero? Is he even better than Van Persie?

What winger is better than Sanchez?

And most importantly, what does this have to do with Chelsea?!

He's not better than Aguero and I think you know my answer to whether he's better than RVP.

Honestly I'd rather have Silva in the team. Sanchez thrives off a free role playing through the middle anyway like he does for Chile, Silva is better in a free playmaking role and he's good enough on the wing.

Therefore Silva would get in the team over Sanchez. Bare in mind I've not rated Sanchez for years, he's had one good season at Barca and a good world cup and everybody are acting like he's the best in the world. Remember last season how everybody saw him as trash.

We're using the first 11, I'm saying how they wouldn't get into the team(non Chelsea players) so it's not like I'm just downplaying my squad. For the record I would put Ramsey in the first 11 with Toure and Fernandinho.

Sturridge has had one good season. Ramsey has had one good season. Bit of a double standard there.

Also, I'm sure I remember you posting that Matic was the best holding midfielder in the league, and not Fernandinho. A few weeks ago I believe.

Best holding midfielder yes. But as a total footballer Fernandinho is better. There's not too much to separate the two though and it's a simple matter of tactics.

Jam, all you have to do is make a Premier League strongest XI to realise just how good Chelsea's team is right now. Courtois, Luis, Terry, Hazard and arguably Fabregas would all be in it. Five players.

Not bothered to go into the Sturridge argument again but the use of one good season is incredibly short sighted. When he got a run of games he was only second to Mata at Chelsea and was on fire for 18 months at Liverpool. Lets not forget his form at Bolton. If he wasn't your typical boisterous black boy with confidence he'd get more ratings like Barkley does.

There's no double standard. Especially when Ramsey got injured for a large part of the season. Sturridge did get injured for about 2 months last season but he was second top goalscorer with those injuries which says it all about his ability. Ramsey was injured for a crucial part of the season. Sturridge also was a bigger matchwinner than Suarez if you look at the stats btw.

Best holding midfielder yes. But as a total footballer Fernandinho is better. There's not too much to separate the two though and it's a simple matter of tactics.

John Terry needs to retire. Chelsea need to be re branded into one of Europe's elites but the club will never have this look if you still have players from England's failure of a "golden generation". How can anyone take the club seriously anymore. Cole and Lampard all have left and now it is Terry's turn. It's a shame Luiz was sold to PSG; surely could have been more than adequate cover for Terry but I guess Chelsea could really do with the 50m right