Who are more dangerous to our everyday life? ISIS or our own government?

It's so sad when I hear people claim that Syria is a religious conflict when religion has nothing to do with it. FSA had people from all sorts of religions taking part to protect civilians and defeat Assad. Assad media kept saying FSA were terrorists as propaganda to justify killing them, well now he's got the terrorists he's always been hoping for, ISIS are so beneficial to Assad because people forget about FSA who are now having to deal with both messes. Since ISIS are super-terrorists to the likes we've never witnessed before, everyone who just watches media reports and skim reads articles thinks it's better for Assad to win the war, and think it's a religious conflict.

Until the day the British Government goes around driving religious minorities out of their homes, raping, beheading and torturing them in the aim of establishing a caliphate, I'll have to say ISIS.

Um, hello? Our British governments have ransacked, looted and destroyed countries for generations?
Here are a list of 'just a few':
India
Iraq
Afghanistan
Mandatory Palestine
South Africa etc.

Also, remember our white European governments enslaved and brutalised an entire race for over 400 years, don't you remember the Atlantic Slave Trade?

With many forum topics debating various issues about ISIS including beheadings, the UK terrorism level being made 'severe', British Muslims going to 'fight' along ISIS etc.

However, after seeing a comment on a forum saying 'ISIS are the most dangerous group on Earth' made me think how dangerous are ISIS compared to our own governments? (UK/US).

Here are a few 'dangers' that our governments control:

It was only a couple of months ago when experts announced the divide between the rich and poor is at its largest since the 1930's.

Education standards in the UK in impoverished areas remain at an all-time low, which causes the impoverished to remain uneducated.. (which continues to result in crime levels rising because the 'dole' doesn't fully support a family).

As Autumn/Winter comes, the energy companies dramatically rise prices, which the elderly, working-class and the poor have to decide between food or heat.

UK/US propaganda (infamously The Sun, DailyMail, Fox News etc.) which forms and contorts the majority of the public's opinion to match the objective of the government. (i.e. 'weapons of mass destruction' to enter Iraq).

These same governments that are beginning to militarise its police, which are meant to 'protect and serve' but instead they 'intimidate and oppress'.

Governments which have allowed companies such as Senco and G4S to privatise British prisons, where private investors make money off the criminals being sentenced to prison.

Any comments?

Freedom to do something does not imply that it is gratis. You are free to talk, but need a mouth to do so. You are free to make music, but you need talent to do so. Etc.

A question: what is wrong with companies making money out of providing prison services? Are you saying that the prisoners should not really be there? Are you saying that their sentences are decided by profit, and not justice? I thought the sentences were handed down by judges, not CEOs.

Another question: do you appreciate the massive work that the governments of the two countries in question have done in order to prevent evil over the years?

And when was the last time the British government did this? Getting on for a century ago; the historical actions of the British Empire are hardly relevant to this debate.

Until the day the British Government goes around driving religious minorities out of their homes, raping, beheading and torturing them in the aim of establishing a caliphate, I'll have to say ISIS.

I always say this to people we are not at war with radical islam the people we are at war is those who say no to us. Look at Saddam for 9 years he was supported by the West to go to Iran and to atrocities but afterwards when he said he didn't want to be part of helping West anymore they turned against him and made him get executed. My question is this assuming you support the death penalty you would say this verdict was right because he did kill people. But what about Blair and Bush how many forces did they send to Iraq and Afghanistan resulting in many people having their limbs blown off, homes destroyed, jobs lost, lives lost etc.... Where is their punishment? ISIS and the government do not care about YOU fact! The government only care about corporate interests we have seen how corporations put profit over life anyday. Look at Haliburton they made billions from the Iraq oil they get paid to rebuild nations many argue that this was a huge reason to invade Iraq so foreign companies can control Iraq look today in Iraq shell, bp and other companies exist there under Saddam it didn't. Why is it seen justifiable to go to a country invade it take it over get profits from that country give nothing to the ordinary people etc... Take also the example of 9/11 who funded Bin Laden? The CIA is not a conspiracy theory it is plain fact. When Bin Laden fought against the soviets look at American and UK newspapers they called him a hero and freedom fighter but the safe guy who says to the West no I will not support you anymore he is deemed a terrorist and they look to accuse him I am not saying I know what happened in 9/11 but what I and many others know is that the govts story is not believable they told people the air to breathe their was safe and guess what it wasn't many developed respiratory illnesses and sadly died from the poisonous air, the times which the towers allegedly hit contradict each other, white van and 4 Non Arabs with explosives are not taken for question instead sent back to Israel etc... You have to ask yourself this question if the govt can use excuse after excuse e.g. we want to stop terrorism but then (fund terrorist groups) can you trust them? Why do Westerners get the idea that everyone has to follow this model those who don't are deemed primitive and savage don't get me started on the flaws of this culture e.g. gender pay inequality, discrimination for races etc.... Lets admit one thing every culture West or not has its ups and downs there is not a perfect model and we shouldn't shove ideologies down people's throats and not play double standards saying ISIS is barbaric yes of course they are but maybe you shouldnt support it or similar terrorist groups like FSA who are also barbaric. So coming to your question I would say govt slightly worse their policies have affected much more people not on a global scale but on a national level but international level

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/how-the-west-bankrolls-isis-millions-from-governments-and-ngos-funding-radical-islamic-terror-group-30438217.html
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/08/374537/americas-biggest-allies-funding-isis/

100% truth. I'm glad someone understands.

Even if you do not like the government policies, living in a country like the UK will give you democracy, freedom to services like education, the ability to enjoy life without fear of death and all round decent life. Whether it Labour, Tory, liberal or UKIP your life will never be in as much danger as it would with the likes of ISIS.

Gawd people are so selfish and forget how lucky they are to be born in a country like this. Yeh maybe it can be crappy sometimes but compared to most of the world and the past 10000 years you can not get better.

I always say this to people we are not at war with radical islam the people we are at war is those who say no to us. Look at Saddam for 9 years he was supported by the West to go to Iran and to atrocities but afterwards when he said he didn't want to be part of helping West anymore they turned against him and made him get executed. My question is this assuming you support the death penalty you would say this verdict was right because he did kill people. But what about Blair and Bush how many forces did they send to Iraq and Afghanistan resulting in many people having their limbs blown off, homes destroyed, jobs lost, lives lost etc.... Where is their punishment? ISIS and the government do not care about YOU fact! The government only care about corporate interests we have seen how corporations put profit over life anyday. Look at Haliburton they made billions from the Iraq oil they get paid to rebuild nations many argue that this was a huge reason to invade Iraq so foreign companies can control Iraq look today in Iraq shell, bp and other companies exist there under Saddam it didn't. Why is it seen justifiable to go to a country invade it take it over get profits from that country give nothing to the ordinary people etc... Take also the example of 9/11 who funded Bin Laden? The CIA is not a conspiracy theory it is plain fact. When Bin Laden fought against the soviets look at American and UK newspapers they called him a hero and freedom fighter but the safe guy who says to the West no I will not support you anymore he is deemed a terrorist and they look to accuse him I am not saying I know what happened in 9/11 but what I and many others know is that the govts story is not believable they told people the air to breathe their was safe and guess what it wasn't many developed respiratory illnesses and sadly died from the poisonous air, the times which the towers allegedly hit contradict each other, white van and 4 Non Arabs with explosives are not taken for question instead sent back to Israel etc... You have to ask yourself this question if the govt can use excuse after excuse e.g. we want to stop terrorism but then (fund terrorist groups) can you trust them? Why do Westerners get the idea that everyone has to follow this model those who don't are deemed primitive and savage don't get me started on the flaws of this culture e.g. gender pay inequality, discrimination for races etc.... Lets admit one thing every culture West or not has its ups and downs there is not a perfect model and we shouldn't shove ideologies down people's throats and not play double standards saying ISIS is barbaric yes of course they are but maybe you shouldnt support it or similar terrorist groups like FSA who are also barbaric. So coming to your question I would say govt slightly worse their policies have affected much more people not only on a national level but global level also

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/how-the-west-bankrolls-isis-millions-from-governments-and-ngos-funding-radical-islamic-terror-group-30438217.html
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/08/374537/americas-biggest-allies-funding-isis/

Saddam needed to die... he was attempting genocide.

Freedom to services like education.. unless you're over 18.. or can't afford £9000/year plus living costs..

or are forced to work for a third of the minimum wage as an apprentice.

Education isn't a freedom for a lot of people in the UK, and the quality of it is ever-diminished by tinkering ministers who have never taught a class in their life.

Without fear of death, unless you're protesting against the supposed 'democratic' government..

unless you're one of over 600 people murdered per year in England, Wales, and Scotland because people have police chiefs on accounts..

unless you're a disabled person who has their benefits cut and can't afford to heat your home..

unless you die of cold and hunger homeless because we think it's more important to protect bankers than it is to ensure basic housing for vulnerable citizens.

Nobody's saying the UK is the worst country in the world to live in, but for most people living in the UK the threat from ISIS is minimal, but the threat from government policies is far more likely to materalise.