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Liz Kendall Appreciation Thread

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Original post by thehistorybore
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Cant stand her. She panders yo ukip trolls and panders to get votes
I don't understand the Left's ideological hatred of Blairism, which won them 3 elections. Liz Kendall is quite clearly the only candidate who can claw back Tory voters who felt the Tories were the more fiscally responsible party, without whom Labour will not win another election. No other candidate appeals to the centre ground in the way that she does.
While some of her opinions are awful (IIRC, she opposes union reform), I think she is great generally. Plainly the only candidate who isn't shackled to the radical leftists of her party, and who is willing to learn the lessons of the past - at the same time she has less of the annoying hectoring mummy vibe of Yvette Cooper.

In fact, I think she's so good that Labour are guaranteed to reject her! Funny how that works.
No more Tory lites. She's far to the right of even where Blair was.

She'll split the party just like corbyn would.


The best bet for labour out of the current candidates is Andy Burnham. In the centre of the party so will be able to appeal to both sides and keep the party together.
He's not going to win labour the enzyme general election but I think he could well get a few seats back and get labour close in some of the marginals and then allow someone with a bit more of a 'wow' factor like Jarvis or Umunna to take over in 2025.

The current job at hand for a labour leader is one more akin to Neil kinnock then tony Blair - just get the party back in contention for 2025. That's partly why umunna and Jarvis backed out.

Burnham is similar to milliband in terms of policy but he's got more personal appeal. More charismatic, better looking and a better orator. That should be enough to get back some of the voters who were put off by ed milliband.

If labour can get to within 50-60 seats of the Tories after the next election and knock away their majority - it will have been realistically a success.
It strikes me that the Labour is becoming massively introverted and self-obsessed - candidates such as Cooper are completely ignoring the need to appeal to the wider public. Kendall is a breath of fresh air and as much as Corbyn's principles are lovely, the guy is living in cloud-cuckoo-land and would be utterly unelectable. The tories would have a field day come the election if he was in charge.
Original post by ExcitedPup
Yay Liz.

I was at the Camberwell CLP last week, we had a vote for which candidate the branch would support. 96 people turned up (the most I've ever seen at a CLP). 50 votes for Liz, 35 for Corbachev.


It's strange how many CLPs voted Liz first Corbyn second - happened here in Lewisham East too. Just shows what a terrible job the other two are doing, especially Burnham, this election should have been his for the taking.
Original post by Iwouldliketoknow
Cant stand her. She panders yo ukip trolls and panders to get votes


What, by saying things like ' I will always believe that it is Britains best interest to remain in the EU?'

Yeah, they'll love that in the Express...
Original post by Bornblue
By 'modern' you mean right wing? I take it.
The right love to do that, take nasty concepts and give to them nice fluffy words such as 'reforming' or 'modernising'.


She's modern and reforming in the sense that she marks a move away from many of Labour's historic policy positions. I'm not making any comment on Kendall, but I think that the label 'modern' does apply quite fairly to her.
Original post by Bornblue
No more Tory lites. She's far to the right of even where Blair was.

She'll split the party just like corbyn would.


The best bet for labour out of the current candidates is Andy Burnham. In the centre of the party so will be able to appeal to both sides and keep the party together.
He's not going to win labour the enzyme general election but I think he could well get a few seats back and get labour close in some of the marginals and then allow someone with a bit more of a 'wow' factor like Jarvis or Umunna to take over in 2025.

The current job at hand for a labour leader is one more akin to Neil kinnock then tony Blair - just get the party back in contention for 2025. That's partly why umunna and Jarvis backed out.

Burnham is similar to milliband in terms of policy but he's got more personal appeal. More charismatic, better looking and a better orator. That should be enough to get back some of the voters who were put off by ed milliband.

If labour can get to within 50-60 seats of the Tories after the next election and knock away their majority - it will have been realistically a success.


PRSOM

We don't usually agree, but this is a beaut.
Lol based Dan Hodges vs owen jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSVUW_fkfEE
Just promise not to privatize the NHS and I will vote for you. :indiff:
Original post by meenu89
I like her. She's very attractive and dynamic, obviously far too modern for the Labour party.


If Liz Kendall gets it Labour will at least be closer to where the electorate are. That is important because that is who votes. I mean I know Labour's funding may come from the unions but they will, at some point, have to win over the public. Sadly for Labour they haven't realised the public nowdays are quite right on a few key issues and prefer to allign themselves with trade unions.

Since you mentioned attractive I don't know if it is just me but a Liz Kendall leader, Stella Creasy deputy would be the most aesthetically pleasing result. The Conservatives have only Theresa May high up. They wouldn't win that competition. If they promoted Penny Morduant sharpish though then the competition would be a hotly debated one.
Original post by i<3milkshake
If Liz Kendall gets it Labour will at least be closer to where the electorate are. That is important because that is who votes. I mean I know Labour's funding may come from the unions but they will, at some point, have to win over the public. Sadly for Labour they haven't realised the public nowdays are quite right on a few key issues and prefer to allign themselves with trade unions.

Since you mentioned attractive I don't know if it is just me but a Liz Kendall leader, Stella Creasy deputy would be the most aesthetically pleasing result. The Conservatives have only Theresa May high up. They wouldn't win that competition. If they promoted Penny Morduant sharpish though then the competition would be a hotly debated one.


May has the whole tough Thatcher thing going for her. May's too traditionally conservative for my taste but she does come across as reasonably competent and strong which will go down well in the Fail and Express.
Original post by alexgr97
I don't understand the Left's ideological hatred of Blairism, which won them 3 elections. Liz Kendall is quite clearly the only candidate who can claw back Tory voters who felt the Tories were the more fiscally responsible party, without whom Labour will not win another election. No other candidate appeals to the centre ground in the way that she does.


And lost them the last two...
Original post by RFowler
And lost them the last two...


Miliband was not a Blairite.
Original post by thehistorybore
Discuss.



Bless her, she's the only nice candidate of the lot!

Even as a Tory I think she's quite likeable and JUST what the Labour Party needs.
Original post by RFowler
And lost them the last two...


Nope that was brown and milibands doing.

I think that most labour people seem to regard liz as a Tory is proof positive that they're in categorical denial about their chances of winning. As blairites dan hodges writes- they've decided that the people voted in David Cameron because they really wanted a socialist alternative!

That said I have more respect for the Corbyn fans than for Cooper and burnham fans- they stand for square for nothing other than their own careers.
Original post by alexgr97
Miliband was not a Blairite.


Not exactly, but the Labour party has followed the same basic ideology as they have done since Blair - Blair moved them to the centre right, where they remain to this day.
Original post by RFowler
Not exactly, but the Labour party has followed the same basic ideology as they have done since Blair - Blair moved them to the centre right, where they remain to this day.


:facepalm:
Original post by Nortus
Are you living in July 2010? It's July 2015.

Nevertheless, the political landscape has not changed since 2010.
Yes it has. SNP are now the third biggest party in terms of seats and the UKIP in terms of votes. The Greens doubled their membership and scored their highest share of votes ever. The Liberal Democrats are decimated, lost their historical third party position and have elected a more left wing leader. Labour on the verge of abandoning the Blair years, bleeding votes to SNP in Scotland and UKIP in urban England is facing a ideological crisis. While the Conservatives using English votes for English laws and the EU referendum fast approaching has awoken English and British nationalist sentiments.
(edited 8 years ago)

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