Is Britain's sea border its biggest asset during this refugee crisis?

Ahh yes, the Lancet report. Well known for being ropier than most rope bridges.

It's really not credible, to get a death toll as high as suggested by them you'd have to start lining people up and shooting them in the street. Even with that crazy number, only 37% are attribuable to coalition forces.

They're the only report to state such obscenely high toll and were trumped by a same methodology report that used a _much_ (33 vs 900+) larger sample size and came out with a much lower and more realistic result.

There is also the issue of 550,000 or so death certificates that don't exist for all the numbers in the report.

Agreed. Daily Mail, in my opinion, is the most vile media outlet in this country... Beyond their horrible history, the sad thing is that it is also one of the most read newspapers in Britain.

Frankly, it doesn't matter what's causing it. Bringing in lots more people will make the problem worse.

20-30000 people is not lots of people.

20-30000 people is not lots of people.

Guardian is worse

Well you also have the PLOS Medicines survey which estimates 460,000 violent deaths due to the invasion and the Opinion Business Research Poll which estimates over a million violent deaths.

I don't agree

Guardian is pro-islamist

Yes, there are many polls, a few of them are criticised heavily, mainly the Lancet and ORB. There isn't much info on PLOS.

"This ORB estimate has been criticised as exaggerated and ill-founded in peer reviewed literature.[6]"

We're quite off topic but those three scientific studies based on statistical data gathering and questioning within cities comes up with 500k - 1mil and only three are that crazy, two of which are heaviliy criticised by scientific peers, those being the Lancet and ORB study, not so much info on PLOS. Even in thes studies, only ~30% are supposedly from coalition forces and 9-13% from airstrike, the same as those killed by car bombs.

Actual body counts are around the 100,000 area and this comes from hospitals, morgues etc but the time frames of every study are different of course.

It is when the public services are already stretched.

Hardly...You need to have a look where the public money gets spend. NHS for example, obesity 1 in 4 and diabetes 1 in 20 in Britain, both cost NHS £16bn which is a fifth on NHS budget, with care market management backed by Tories costing another 10% of the NHS budget... In comparison with that the immigrants only cost NHS £1bn a year, and this according to Daily Mail (keeping in mind how DM feels about migration). About the benefits....£1.1million of JSA out of which only 65000 were EU migrants.

Well I am not too sure whether 'Fuhrer' Merkel is calling the shots when currently Germany houses more Syrian refugees then nearly the rest of Europe combined ( certainly more than the UK, France, Sweden and Italy together). We have taken in 4 times less syrian refugees than Sweden.

Sorry but can I actually have solid evidence that if we took in the number of refugees the UN have requested based on out GDP, employment and Population the country won't cope.

Is it me or does some people here thinks that every refugee would go on benefits as soon as they arrive in the UK?

Hardly...You need to have a look where the public money gets spend. NHS for example, obesity 1 in 4 and diabetes 1 in 20 in Britain, both cost NHS £16bn which is a fifth on NHS budget, with care market management backed by Tories costing another 10% of the NHS budget... In comparison with that the immigrants only cost NHS £1bn a year, and this according to Daily Mail (keeping in mind how DM feels about migration). About the benefits....£1.1million of JSA out of which only 65000 were EU migrants.

Where do you think these people will live? What do you think these people will use for healthcare? School? It is not as simple as giving a family £1000 a month for food/water/electricty until until they may or may not become employed

Although there may be immediate costs as refugees are resettled and adjusted to their new environments, when given the required support and opportunities refugees can, and do, make significant social, cultural, and economic contributions to their host countries. They increase consumer markets for domestic commodities, create new markets, bring in new skills, provide employment and fill vacant employment positions.

http://www.voanews.com/content/refugees-economy-20jun14/1941347.html

There is no evidence that the 20,000 Syrian refugees Cameron announced they would permit over a five year period would put unimaginable strain on our economy and on our public services unless you are willing to give any evidence?

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