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Art Therapist?

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I have recently completed a Psychology BSc and I am looking into doing a Masters in Art Psychotherapy. Does anyone have direct experience of what is involved in this role as I find simply reading online 'role description' can sometimes be a bit too abstract. Also, most providers require a 'substantial amount of life experience' so would being a recent graduate (21 years old) be a disadvantage? Or is it known that young people do these courses too?
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You've made a lot of threads over the past week about a variety of difference roles. I'm getting the sense that you are bouncing between different ideas a lot. Mental health nursing, PWP and arts therapist are vastly different roles. Do you have a clear idea of what you would like to achieve in your career? You are obviously committed to a career in the health sector, which is great. What about it draws you in? Are you looking for day-to-day support? To provide specialist input? To work in managing/alleviating mental health/learning disability/personality disorder difficulties? Are you an arty person? Do you feel you'd like to do that therapeutically?

Arts therapy is an undergraduate degree, so you don't need a lot of experience to do that. Not sure why a Master's would be considered any different.
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Training for Art Therapy / Art Psychotherapy is at post grad level, take a look at http://www.baat.org/Careers-Training and maybe organise some work experience to check out if it is a field you'd like to train in. Most courses would look for some art experience which is another consideration. Some courses do have age restrictions so you will need to demonstrate maturity and commitment to your chosen field to be considered.
Original post by _Sinnie_
You've made a lot of threads over the past week about a variety of difference roles. I'm getting the sense that you are bouncing between different ideas a lot. Mental health nursing, PWP and arts therapist are vastly different roles. Do you have a clear idea of what you would like to achieve in your career? You are obviously committed to a career in the health sector, which is great. What about it draws you in? Are you looking for day-to-day support? To provide specialist input? To work in managing/alleviating mental health/learning disability/personality disorder difficulties? Are you an arty person? Do you feel you'd like to do that therapeutically?

Arts therapy is an undergraduate degree, so you don't need a lot of experience to do that. Not sure why a Master's would be considered any different.


Well, I originally wanted to be a counsellor and progress onto CBT therapist years down the line through BABCP - which is why I was interested in PWP as it uses CBT methods and and you can progress to becoming a high intensity therapist. So counselling was always the plan, but having asked a careers adviser, doing a few Google searches and asking a few other people I have been warned against doing the counselling training as it costs a lot of money for an uncertain chance of finding a paid job at the end, especially a full time one. I made a Mental Health Nursing post just to learn what the role was about (more so than simply reading a page off the internet) but I was never truly committed to that. Ultimately, I just want to help people with mental health difficulties preferably in a talking way, quite direct rather than being behind the scenes just doing paper work (etc). I am quite arty, I did an AS level in Art and Design and I find time to do small pieces every now and then, and doing it therapeutically does interest me :smile:
When I did an art therapy taster day thing at Derby uni they said to get on the course you would need 2 years of relevant work experience and a proper art portfolio to demonstrate your skills at art. So no, you couldn't do it right now. The masters is also unfunded and lasts 2 years during which time you will have to pay for private therapy as well so very expensive. Lastly, jobs in this area aren't the easiest to find either, as you can imagine when budgets are cut jobs like art therapists are probably seen as less important than, for example, a psychiatrist.

Personally I wasn't impressed with the taster day as the impression I was given by the guy running it was that you are basically there to help the person do their art more than actually try and cause any change... and most of the work was in prisons according to him as well. No idea if this was accurate but it's what I was told.
Original post by doodle_333
When I did an art therapy taster day thing at Derby uni they said to get on the course you would need 2 years of relevant work experience and a proper art portfolio to demonstrate your skills at art. So no, you couldn't do it right now. The masters is also unfunded and lasts 2 years during which time you will have to pay for private therapy as well so very expensive. Lastly, jobs in this area aren't the easiest to find either, as you can imagine when budgets are cut jobs like art therapists are probably seen as less important than, for example, a psychiatrist.

Personally I wasn't impressed with the taster day as the impression I was given by the guy running it was that you are basically there to help the person do their art more than actually try and cause any change... and most of the work was in prisons according to him as well. No idea if this was accurate but it's what I was told.


Ah the course I was looking at is 3 years part time, so enables you to stay in a part time job too, but I looked into personal therapy and that does seem to amount to quite a bit of money. Is that experience for two years cumulatively or continuously? I already have an art portfolio that I am building up so I guess that is good.
Oh interesting, I am going to go to an open day at the uni I want to go to and hopefully that will give me a better insight into the course and prospects after completing it. I think I would definitely prefer exploring the persons emotions/experiences rather than helping them more with their art pieces.

Thanks for the help :smile:
Original post by lookingforhelp
Ah the course I was looking at is 3 years part time, so enables you to stay in a part time job too, but I looked into personal therapy and that does seem to amount to quite a bit of money. Is that experience for two years cumulatively or continuously? I already have an art portfolio that I am building up so I guess that is good.
Oh interesting, I am going to go to an open day at the uni I want to go to and hopefully that will give me a better insight into the course and prospects after completing it. I think I would definitely prefer exploring the persons emotions/experiences rather than helping them more with their art pieces.

Thanks for the help :smile:


No worries, my understanding was that you need to be in personal therapy for X number of hours so you could possibly get away without being in therapy for your whole course, but we were still told it generally cost £3000+ as obviously it's private :/ which is pretty crazy, although I obviously do understand the point of it

Good idea, I wasn't impressed at all with the course at the uni I was at but I wasn't impressed with the taster day either so it may be that rather than the profession!
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Original post by doodle_333
No worries, my understanding was that you need to be in personal therapy for X number of hours so you could possibly get away without being in therapy for your whole course, but we were still told it generally cost £3000+ as obviously it's private :/ which is pretty crazy, although I obviously do understand the point of it

Good idea, I wasn't impressed at all with the course at the uni I was at but I wasn't impressed with the taster day either so it may be that rather than the profession!


You need to be psychotherapy yourself for the duration of the course, most stay for a bit after too. It's around 40 pounds a week. Art therapists work in a wide range of settings, schools, hospitals, mental health, forensics, drugs and alcohol settings, aged population, mother/babies, pretty much anywhere that works with people!
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the jobs are competitive in any of those fields, none of them are guaranteed work, certainly not guaranteed ft. There is a huge amount of pressure on PWPs; its very target driven. I wouldnt pay to do art therapy when you can do creative interventions with a client regardless. 24+ learning loans are available on most counselling courses and most counselling courses have a minimum age requirement.

The main difference for mental health nurse is that you can provide medication and thats a big plus. CPN is a good role and some do provide therapeutic input.
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not all counselling courses require you to have therapy for duration of the course. My course had small requirement but my placement required minimum of 30 hours or for you to be in therapy through course. I had about a bazillion hours of therapy before starting the course so i was fine.

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