Original post by RealisticPharmThank God! I was getting worried for a while that Universities must be really forcing the 'career in Pharmacy' angle and misleading another generation of students. They've got no incentive to change their current approach to developing the careers of Pharmacy graduates - or to develop new ties with industry, or have any input into the profession. So long as a school can fill a course by pointing to some hugely out of date figures, focus exclusively on 'starting salary', pretend that Pharmacists future role will be 'services, clinical....you know uh consultations?' and humour ever applicant about 'maybe going into industry' then they wont change. They'll just keep taking the money, and chucking you out onto the job market.
The chap here gets it, and reminds me of the students I went to University with. Everyone here burying their heads in the sand because someone who actually does the job is suggesting you think more broadly about your career, seemingly ignoring the fact that those coming up to graduation are probably in the best position of anyone. I'm 5 years out, I've got commitments, and a standard of living to maintain. I can't move anywhere in the country, as any move would have to accommodate more than just my career. It's the same story for all of my friends who graduated when I did, making the change now 5 years in was tougher than it needed to be. If you've got drive and ambition to want more for yourself, and the confidence to go for it then you don't need to be at the mercy of a failing profession. Sachinisgod is probably going to establish the new path for Pharmacists - by using the MPharm more broadly and taking on roles that Pharmacists traditionally haven't touched.
I'm not sure what 'neldee95' thinks they're doing today that they weren't doing a mere 5 years ago, but I suspect she's missing the point. I was taught all of the services and consultation skills, did many an OSCE because that was going to be an essential skill for Pharmacists. Well 5 years later and it's not, in fact the range of services offered in most CCGs is much smaller than in the PCT days.
I suppose the cross section here does seem to be more engineers who are having trouble finding a job, with disappointingly few Pharmacists. Pharmacy is a AAA course these days, students applying with these grades shouldn't be comparing their future to 'the average salary', or even contemplating a career where you start and finish on the same amount and spend your days doing the same role. I hate to say it because I already get spoken to like I'm ancient for being maybe 6 years older, but Sachinisgod seems to understand the real world, that you don't want to settle for a shade better than average, and that anyone worth having in your profession will keep striving for more, not content themselves with being in the top 45% at graduation and staying there. Once you've got something, it's not enough after a while. You will not have a fulfilling career earning the same money and doing the same job for 35 years, and no one will ever respect you or your degree if you don't snap out of it. Yeah fingers crossed for the GP Prescriber scheme, but there's way more Pharmacy graduates than are ever going to be able to get on that. I suspect people with the attitude like Sachin here will be yet another blow to community Pharmacy, perhaps the biggest one. If the brightest and most driven students from the better schools leave the profession altogether, then those going in to community will be of a lower average quality than today. I really hope this next generation of graduates are successful in having the MPharm recognised outside of a career in Boots. No doubt they've got their work cut out for them, but at least some people realise they're better than the role that will await them if they do nothing.