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'How DARE Brussels tell us how many migrants can live in our country?' says Hungary.

Voters in Hungary are on a collision course with the European Union as they look certain to reject a refugee quota scheme being imposed on them by Brussels bureaucrats.

A referendum is being held on October 2 and the result is expected to be an overwhelming victory for the country's hard-line Prime Minister Viktor Orbán who is leading the 'keep them out' campaign.

He has urged the country to say 'no' to all migrants and polls suggest he is in tune with the nation with over 75 per cent of the population set to reject the EU imposed quota of 1,294 refugees.

Mr Orbán, the most vociferous anti-immigrant leader among the 28 EU nations, announced the date of the referendum days after the UK Brexit vote.

He said immigration had been the key issue in the vote, describing Britain as 'taking back its island' and praising those who voted to leave.

Analysts said he had been emboldened by the Brexit vote and chose to seize the moment for his own referendum to reject the EU plan to re-settle 160,000 refugees among the existing member states.

Those countries that refuse to accept the quota face heavy fines of £212,000 for each refugee turned away.

With Hungary asked to accept 1,294 people, that amounts to a fine of more than £255million.

Despite the threat, voters across Hungary agree with Mr Orbán's tough stance and his zero tolerance approach to migration.

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If everyone follows suit and the EU quota breaks down then surely it will be a free for all with people continuing on from Greece and Italy to what ever countries they wish which obviously won't affect Hungary (who wants to go there) but they will all head to the UK/Sweden/Germany etc. who won't be able to simply go "Well sorry we've had our quota" and then deport them, it would be much more difficult.

Nobody wants to be relocated to Eastern European countries but this would force those countries to bear some the burden.
Based Orban
Good on the Magyars
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Europe cannot possibly look after the entire middle east, south asia and africa. We just don't have the land and are too over crowded already. Accepting 1,200 'refugees' won't make a difference anyways. Tiny drop in an enormous Ocean. Let them sort out their own problems (for once). One thing we can do though - is imprison evil vermin like Tony Blair. His actions went against 90% of public opinion.
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Original post by WW3IsComing
Voters in Hungary are on a collision course with the European Union as they look certain to reject a refugee quota scheme being imposed on them by Brussels bureaucrats.

A referendum is being held on October 2 and the result is expected to be an overwhelming victory for the country's hard-line Prime Minister Viktor Orbán who is leading the 'keep them out' campaign.

He has urged the country to say 'no' to all migrants and polls suggest he is in tune with the nation with over 75 per cent of the population set to reject the EU imposed quota of 1,294 refugees.

Mr Orbán, the most vociferous anti-immigrant leader among the 28 EU nations, announced the date of the referendum days after the UK Brexit vote.

He said immigration had been the key issue in the vote, describing Britain as 'taking back its island' and praising those who voted to leave.

Analysts said he had been emboldened by the Brexit vote and chose to seize the moment for his own referendum to reject the EU plan to re-settle 160,000 refugees among the existing member states.

Those countries that refuse to accept the quota face heavy fines of £212,000 for each refugee turned away.

With Hungary asked to accept 1,294 people, that amounts to a fine of more than £255million.

Despite the threat, voters across Hungary agree with Mr Orbán's tough stance and his zero tolerance approach to migration.

Read More:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3684113/How-DARE-Brussels-tell-migrants-live-country-Hungary-vote-no-Brexit-inspired-referendum-EU-demands-1-294-refugees-pay-300million-fine-instead.html


I don't think you are quite right there.

The Hungarian government is looking for migrants.

http://hungarytoday.hu/news/economy-minister-hungary-bring-non-eu-guest-workers-ease-shortage-labour-74532

Other sources suggest that up to 1 million are being sought.
What happened the world where if someone was in trouble others offered to help? Rejecting 1000 refugees is pathetic.
Original post by nulli tertius
I don't think you are quite right there.

The Hungarian government is looking for migrants.

http://hungarytoday.hu/news/economy-minister-hungary-bring-non-eu-guest-workers-ease-shortage-labour-74532

Other sources suggest that up to 1 million are being sought.


hmmm

Reacting to a proposal put forward recently by the Confederation of Hungarian Employers and Industrialists (MGYOSZ), which suggested the inclusion of “skilled, culturally integrable guest workers” in serving the problem...


I think "culturally integratable" might mean no muslims... "guest worker" afaik means no route to citizenship.

...the minister said that the cabinet agrees with several points of the proposal, including securing the possibility of employing skilled labour from outside the EU if necessary. Nobody has to fear losing their job because the scheme will only involve professions lacking an adequate number of appropriately skilled Hungarian employees, Mr. Varga claimed.


Seems to be bending over backwards to reassure the existing population that migration will be tightly controlled and not a threat to their jobs... maybe they were a bit better in touch with the fears of their population than our lot.
Bet Hungary wasnt saying that when they were pleading to join and when they cash in all the free money they get from the EU.

They get the most money per person from the EU.

If they dont agree with the way its run or dont wnat to respect its policies, then they should leave. UK pays 110 Euro per person compared to Hungary receiving 570 euro. The momenyt they are asked to do soemthing other than accpet free money they are in uproar. Real team player.
Original post by 999tigger
Bet Hungary wasnt saying that when they were pleading to join and when they cash in all the free money they get from the EU.

They get the most money per person from the EU.

If they dont agree with the way its run or dont wnat to respect its policies, then they should leave. UK pays 110 Euro per person compared to Hungary receiving 570 euro. The momenyt they are asked to do soemthing other than accpet free money they are in uproar. Real team player.

The problem is that the agreements Hungary signed more or less endorsed their current "Keep refugees out." stance.

The decision to let refugees into Hungary was made bilaterally by the governments of Germany and Sweden. It was not contained in the EU treaties, nor was it made by any EU body.
Original post by 99_Problems
If everyone follows suit and the EU quota breaks down then surely it will be a free for all with people continuing on from Greece and Italy to what ever countries they wish which obviously won't affect Hungary (who wants to go there) but they will all head to the UK/Sweden/Germany etc. who won't be able to simply go "Well sorry we've had our quota" and then deport them, it would be much more difficult.

Nobody wants to be relocated to Eastern European countries but this would force those countries to bear some the burden.


The UK's response is, "You have no legal grounds to enter our territory.", as a result of which the UK has taken hardly any refugees.

The Schengen Zone's response was supposed to be, "You have no legal grounds to enter our territory.", a response that was short-circuited by Merkel and Löfven without consulting Hungary and without Hungary's permission.
Original post by Observatory
The problem is that the agreements Hungary signed more or less endorsed their current "Keep refugees out." stance.

The decision to let refugees into Hungary was made bilaterally by the governments of Germany and Sweden. It was not contained in the EU treaties, nor was it made by any EU body.


It's not really a problem. If they wont help collectively then they can just take the fines and reduction of subsides as a result. The quota plan comes from the EU Commission, which I believe is an EU body. I believe there might be soemthing about the Commission in the EU treaties as well....

Germany and Sweden dont decide who to let into Hungary.
1,294 people? Seriously?
Original post by ByEeek
What happened the world where if someone was in trouble others offered to help? Rejecting 1000 refugees is pathetic.


There are so few Muslims living in their country even a thousand seems a lot to them.

(According to the 2011 Hungarian census, there were 5,579 Muslims in Hungary, making up 0.056% of the total population.)

Amazing though it seems to us, I know, they aren't keen on copying our example
(and France and Germany) of importing large Muslim populations.

For some reason, I have no idea why, they don't think it is working out too well, integration wise..

Also, to be fair, Hungary has been (an unsuccessful) target of successive Islamic conquest attempts over many centuries.

They probably don't want immigration to succeed where the scimitar failed...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vienna
Original post by generallee
There are so few Muslims living in their country even a thousand seems a lot to them.

(According to the 2011 Hungarian census, there were 5,579 Muslims in Hungary, making up 0.056% of the total population.)


Who said anything about Muslims. I was talking about refugees.
Original post by ByEeek
Who said anything about Muslims. I was talking about refugees.


You may be talking about refugees.

The Hungarians are talking about Muslims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbINrdyAXlE

And it is their country, you see. Not yours.
For every refugee they are being alloted by the EU, then Hungary manages to take 5 million euros. If they dont like being asked to share the burden of refugees and support the aims of the EU, then they should use the exiting mechanisms to make a protest. If they dont like it they should leave.
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"How dare they tell us what to do?? We'll take the money the EU gives us tho"
Original post by generallee


And it is their country, you see. Not yours.


It is their country, but they joined the EU so they can have the benefits and get given billions of Euros for free. As part of that they are expected to comply with EU rules and support its aims and ideas.
Original post by 999tigger
It is their country, but they joined the EU so they can have the benefits and get given billions of Euros for free. As part of that they are expected to comply with EU rules and support its aims and ideas.


Here we have the whole problem of the European Union, in a nutshell

It has zero democratic legitimacy, it answers to no-one, and is impossible to remove from power, in any practicable sense. Yet it assumes quasi fascistic supra national powers to itself.

It says to a free, sovereign, people "Obey us! Do as we tell you, or it will be the worse for you financially!"

So that people must submit, and become neither free nor sovereign. Bending the knee to the unelected Brussels eurocracy.

They did it to Greece. You want them to do it to Hungary. They are trying to do it to us.

It amazes me that some people still don't see through the European Union.

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