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New Ch 4 Muslim documentary.

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Original post by Nizzay!
I'm just gonna repost what a Dr said on instagram about this programme and leave this here for thought.

The links between Islamophobia, racialization and racism continue to pop up around us. Consider the new Channel 4 (U.K.) documentary, "My Week As A Muslim," which shows a non-Muslim White British woman "live as a Muslim" for a "social experiment." Katie Freeman, the main character of the documentary, darkens her skin ("brownfaces":wink: and puts on the hijab in an effort to "look like a Pakistani Muslim woman." To be clear, brownfacing (and blackfacing) is demeaning. It perpetuates stereotypes of People of Color. It symbolizes an abuse of power - like a person's skin color can be removed with the snap of a finger. As if brownfacing isn't reckless enough, in the program, Freeman goes so far as saying, "You see (Muslims) and you just think they're gonna blow something up." Not only does she imagine Muslims in a racialized manner, but she views them through the stereotypical prism of violence. Channel 4 has not only missed the mark, but they have carelessly racialized both Islam and "Muslim identity." The documentary suggests 1) that being white and Muslim are exclusive 2) that being Muslim has racial attributes 3) that there is a uniform way of "being Muslim"; and 4) that there is a "visible archetype" of Muslims in the U.K. and beyond. This program should end immediately. It offers nothing of substance. If anything, it's damaging and only reproduces the cancers in our societies.


That's just another way of exploiting race for personal gain like they did in that program. Lost the will to live half-way through, really.

When in number 10, the entire race-relations industry will be frozen for a year. After that, we;ll have a review to see if we need it back.
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Original post by JMR2017
You sound like what National Socialists said about Jewish people in the 30s.



Except jewish people were not going around blowing stuff up in the 30's were they?
Original post by RivalPlayer

Fuming Muslims aren't a good sign.


Are you saying that Moslems are more incendiary than the rest of the population? You aren't implying, are you, that a minority of them would even kill people for offending them? That cannot be true.
Original post by kenedy6
I think Muslim communities should be investigated more thoroughly. There is clearly something wrong with this religion.


This is the problem. There are a few Islamic nut-jobs so all Muslims should therefore be investigated? Rubbish. The muppetary of Gove and Johnson not to mention fascist white supremacy groups in the UK are surely equal reasons to investigate the whole of the white population no?

Do not fear what you are ignorant of. Just stop being ignorant, open your eyes and talk to these people. They are generally lovely!
Original post by QE2
Is the outrage justified?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/oct/19/my-week-as-a-muslim-documentary-sparks-racism-row

TL;DR
Channel 4 disguised a white British woman as a South Asian Muslim who lived with a Muslim family for a week in order to experience "Islamophobia" first hand.

A range of Muslim groups and individuals have branded the programme "racist", "deeply offensive", "absolutely shocking", and "reinforcing prejudice".


I believe that the Muslim community often responds with accusations of racism against proper critique of Islam. But this programme is ridiculous; she basically did "blackface". They gave her a big prosthetic nose and darkened her skin, and she claimed to be someone she wasn't.

I do not understand the journalistic or documentary merit of this. What issues are they exploring that could not be explored with an actual Muslim narrator / subject?
As dumb as this show sounds, I don't agree with the "blackface" parallels people are drawing here. Blackface involved people wearing shoe polish, looking nothing like black people, and doing so to mock and deride a racial group. Hence it was distasteful and racist. This woman, however, changed her appearance as part if a legitimate disguise for a journalistic investigation and not with intent to mock or disrespect. I'm tired of people assuming any racial or ethnic imitation is automatically "blackface" or some equivalent. That's not what blackface is.

Two different things, two different contexts.

Regardless, it's hard not to appreciate the schadenfreude in seeing progressive race-baiters eat their own.
Wtf. Channel 4 need to sort their dog poo out.
I'm tired of these c4 shows, all they do is stir up more tensions and hatred between non-Muslims and the Muslim community, last thing we need right now
Original post by AlexanderHam
I believe that the Muslim community often responds with accusations of racism against proper critique of Islam. But this programme is ridiculous; she basically did "blackface". They gave her a big prosthetic nose and darkened her skin, and she claimed to be someone she wasn't.

I do not understand the journalistic or documentary merit of this. What issues are they exploring that could not be explored with an actual Muslim narrator / subject?


The 'Muslim community' doesn't respond. Individual Muslims do. Stop generalising an entire group of people. People are individuals and must be treated as such
Original post by MartinF98
The 'Muslim community' doesn't respond. Individual Muslims do.

You are right to point this out, however I think saying "representatives of the Muslim community" is a valid characterisation. The MCB is fairly broadly accepted and recognised. I would argue that in the past they have responded to legitimate critiques of Islam as a religion (just as there is legitimate critique of Christianity, etc) with accusations of racism.

I went on to say that I felt this programme was disgusting and racist, and that it would have been far better to have an actual Muslim to allow them to speak for themselves about what they go through
Original post by AlexanderHam
You are right to point this out, however I think saying "representatives of the Muslim community" is a valid characterisation. The MCB is fairly broadly accepted and recognised. I would argue that in the past they have responded to legitimate critiques of Islam as a religion (just as there is legitimate critique of Christianity, etc) with accusations of racism.

I went on to say that I felt this programme was disgusting and racist, and that it would have been far better to have an actual Muslim to allow them to speak for themselves about what they go through


Do you have any examples of when they responded to criticisms of Islam with accusations of racism?
Pure racism. Muslims don't have to be brown and why not just use a South Asian person instead of colouring a white person brown? Disgraceful to see this from a public service broadcaster
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Original post by Trapz99
Pure racism.


I agree it is racism but not in the conventional way, money is the root cause of the enterprise. By using 'race' as the topic for a money-making scheme they are just joining so many other money-making schemes in this country that make money out of 'race'. Hundreds of public bodies, thousands of emlployees, think-tanks, researchers, the amount of people who would fall flat on their faces without the race=relations industry they are part of is... well, a guess.

What's racist is precisely that,using of race as a money-maker. The more we do to tackle any real problems, the more of them seem to pop up and we'll never see the end of it at this rate. Come off it, asian workers earn a couple more quid an hour than us whiteys, on average, and that isn't a problem either.
Original post by zhog
I've blocked 4News from my screen after quite a few years. Their social agenda is suffocating.


Why the liberal faux outrage at everything?
Original post by Airplanebee2
Why the liberal faux outrage at everything?


Precisely, they do Trump on a Monday, the race divide on Tuesday, feminism on a Wed, it goes on forever sometimes. Bloomberg News, only place left for clinical reporting on what goes on in this world. All else is inevitably biased somehow.

Does that answer your question or... not? :biggrin:
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Original post by kenedy6
I think Muslim communities should be investigated more thoroughly. There is clearly something wrong with this religion.


you gonna get so much hate
I treat everyone individually, however, I do not like the covering of the face and get called racist for this. I don't get what this show was trying to prove to be honest. There is bad feeling between many people and it largely gets ignored, but anything negative towards a muslim person and all hell breaks loose. And what's all this "hate crime" bs, like it's a worse crime to stereotype someone yet If I get abuse whilst on my bike (and it happens quite a lot) it'a OK. it's like a crime heirarchy rather than each individual case being treated on merit.
Original post by thecube
I treat everyone individually, however, I do not like the covering of the face and get called racist for this. I don't get what this show was trying to prove to be honest. There is bad feeling between many people and it largely gets ignored, but anything negative towards a muslim person and all hell breaks loose. And what's all this "hate crime" bs, like it's a worse crime to stereotype someone yet If I get abuse whilst on my bike (and it happens quite a lot) it'a OK. it's like a crime heirarchy rather than each individual case being treated on merit.


The topic is the race divide, to 'expose it'. 4News have it high on their agenda too, the denounciation of so much that divides racially categorized groups.

The more they tell us about it... the more we know there is a race divide. The more we do about it... the worse it gets.
I think it would have been better if it had been a white person just with a headscarf as worn by some Muslim women. The make-up to look as if of Pakistani or other Asian heritage was wrong in my view.
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