Colleges for law

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PDJM

JCW which year is that table for? I have the current class list in front of me and I'm not sure how it is possible to have ranked those colleges in that way, ie for law in 2004 Fitz got two firsts (one in IA one in IB) (one of these will have its table increasing effect removed by a third (in IB)).

It claims to be a 2004 table. For Fitzwilliam the entry reads:
College ID 1 2.i 2.2 3 Tomp_score
Fitzwilliam College F 4 17 1 1 64.3

There were two firsts in Part II for Fitzwilliam as well. Tompkins works on 5 for a first, 3 for a 2.i, 2 for a 2.ii, 1 for a 3. Hence, we have (20+51+2+1)/(5*23)*100 = 64.3. Above Fitz is Caius:

Gonville & Caius College G 7 24 5 0 65.0

The reason Fitz appears to have done so well is because the Tompkins score places a real premium (right, IMO) on firsts (although I think it overvalues 2.ii/thirds) and Fitz got a high percentage of firsts and only two 2.ii / 3.

If you are interested, Girton came in 6th, Downing at 8th and Trinity Hall at 13th.

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just out of interest jcw, how did stjohns, trinity, clare and emmanuel do?

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jamierwilliams

just out of interest jcw, how did stjohns, trinity, clare and emmanuel do?

Now I've learnt how to read the table:

St John's 10th (62.6 - 3,26,2,0)
Trinity 16th (58.9 - 5,20,12,0)
Clare 11th (61.9 - 2,17,2,0)
Emmanuel 9th (62.6 - 5,12,5,1)*

* Comes ahead of John's because of the higher %ge firsts given same Tompkins score.

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PDJM

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Sorry that was a typo, IA should have read II, the results I am looking at are also only those who allow theirs to be published, some people do opt out!

PDJM

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PDJM

Sorry that was a typo, IA should have read II, the results I am looking at are also only those who allow theirs to be published, some people do opt out!

There are two Fitzwilliams firsts in Part IB and two in part II according to the standard Reporter (Special No. 18). It is virtually impossible to opt-out as the subordinate legislation made under the University Statutes requires publication of all results. The Registrary has made one or two exceptions in previous years where very good cause has been shown.

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PDJM

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I've double checked this years-you're correct on the number, I missed two of the F's- that's what happens when you play computer games all day! However an opt out is not as rare as imagined, the procedure was advertised on a noticeboard in my College and some people I know of have used it in the past- what reasons they have used however remain a mystery.

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jcw

Now I've learnt how to read the table:

St John's 10th (62.6 - 3,26,2,0)
Trinity 16th (58.9 - 5,20,12,0)
Clare 11th (61.9 - 2,17,2,0)
Emmanuel 9th (62.6 - 5,12,5,1)*

* Comes ahead of John's because of the higher %ge firsts given same Tompkins score.

does emmanuel have a good law dept?

i am choosing a college and have shortlisted:

St John's
Clare
Emmanuel
Trinity

So, which are the best for law and the most recognised in general....i like the tradition of johns, the reputation of emmanuel, the friendliness of clare and the grandiose of trinity.....so which one should i go for considering i ike all of them equally!?

toss a coin

that's such a great way to choose a college!

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observer

well, in your context its not that a bad way. You like all 4 colleges. Theres a certain amount of chance and luck involved with getting an offer from all colleges any way. So if your deadlocked i dont see it being that bad of a way to choose. :smile:

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observer

well, in your context its not that a bad way. You like all 4 colleges. Theres a certain amount of chance and luck involved with getting an offer from all colleges any way. So if your deadlocked i dont see it being that bad of a way to choose. :smile:

i suppose.....well i dont suppose, thats a good idea!

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observer

in all seriousness, have you visited them yet. That might give yourself a better idea. Its allways different that the pictures in the prospectus

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observer

in all seriousness, have you visited them yet. That might give yourself a better idea. Its allways different that the pictures in the prospectus

no not yet....i am going to visit all 4 and then make a decision based on which one i feel most comfortable at (i wouldnt really flip a coin!)

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jcw.....also just out of interest, which colleges came 1 2 and 3?

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jamierwilliams

jcw.....also just out of interest, which colleges came 1 2 and 3?

Christs, Catz, Gonville & Caius for Law - my first post had them in order.

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