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The economics courses at both universities are brilliant.

I have no idea about the geography side of it. However, LSE's reputation in Economics is so imposing that i am drawn to the conclusion that any course at LSE with the word "economics" may hold better job prospects than the equivalent course at UCL.
Although i have heard the teaching at LSE is crap at undergraduate level. But on the whole LSE sounds like the best bet (for reputation and career opportunities).


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Reply 81
Quick question:

If LSE is so bad at undergraduate due to bad teaching (I am not denying it is, in fact I have heard this from more than one person), why is it especially good for postgrad?

Is it because you basically have to do all the work yourself? Just wondering how it can be bad for undergraduate but be really good for pg?
Reply 82
Original post by ukclean
Quick question:

If LSE is so bad at undergraduate due to bad teaching (I am not denying it is, in fact I have heard this from more than one person), why is it especially good for postgrad?

Is it because you basically have to do all the work yourself? Just wondering how it can be bad for undergraduate but be really good for pg?


What most people say is that LSE focuses their resources on postgrads (i.e you do not get the best profs at the undergraduate level). Thus there's a certain discrepancy in terms of teaching quality and standards.

Yes, at LSE undergrad level students have to work really hard on their own. There's insufficient teaching support (my friend at LSE feels).
I have been accepted to both (LSE - Management Sciences and UCL Statistics and Management for Business), but I don't know what to choose. What do you think?
Reply 84
Original post by nightshade07
I have been accepted to both (LSE - Management Sciences and UCL Statistics and Management for Business), but I don't know what to choose. What do you think?


which course do you prefer/have more interest in? That's a very important question.
Reply 85
I have offers from both LSE and UCL (LSE - BSc Geography with Economics, UCL - BSc Geography and Economics). I've just firmed UCL. I feel that UCL will give me a far better social life, the course has equal weighting in both subjects and the flexibility to go 75/25 in the third year in either subject, UCL's Geog and Econ departments are world class and recognised and UCL is a target uni in the finance and consultancy sectors. Granted LSE has better employment figures but that's just an average, if you're a top student choosing UCL won't be a disadvantage at all. And LSE has a terrible rep in terms of student satisfaction and social life, plus the whole hardcore investment banking culture it apparently has seems pretty lame and superficial. The only plus that I can see with LSE over UCL is that it is more respected internationally (and domestically), but the gap isn't that large at all and perceptions will definitely shift in the coming years.
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Reply 86
Original post by nightshade07
I have been accepted to both (LSE - Management Sciences and UCL Statistics and Management for Business), but I don't know what to choose. What do you think?


Well the quantative aspect of the UCL course would be very useful if you wanted a career in finance.
Reply 87
Original post by therealOG
I have offers from both LSE and UCL (LSE - BSc Geography with Economics, UCL - BSc Geography and Economics). I've just firmed UCL. I feel that UCL will give me a far better social life, the course has equal weighting in both subjects and the flexibility to go 75/25 in the third year in either subject, UCL's Geog and Econ departments are world class and recognised and UCL is a target uni in the finance and consultancy sectors. Granted LSE has better employment figures but that's just an average, if you're a top student choosing UCL won't be a disadvantage at all. And LSE has a terrible rep in terms of student satisfaction and social life, plus the whole hardcore investment banking culture it apparently has seems pretty lame and superficial. The only plus that I can see with LSE over UCL is that it is more respected internationally (and domestically), but the gap isn't that large at all and perceptions will definitely shift in the coming years.


Well said! Excellent choice you've made! :smile:
Reply 88
Original post by eugeneho
Well said! Excellent choice you've made! :smile:


Cheers mate :smile: I can't wait 'till next year :biggrin:
Original post by therealOG
I have offers from both LSE and UCL (LSE - BSc Geography with Economics, UCL - BSc Geography and Economics). I've just firmed UCL. I feel that UCL will give me a far better social life, the course has equal weighting in both subjects and the flexibility to go 75/25 in the third year in either subject, UCL's Geog and Econ departments are world class and recognised and UCL is a target uni in the finance and consultancy sectors. Granted LSE has better employment figures but that's just an average, if you're a top student choosing UCL won't be a disadvantage at all. And LSE has a terrible rep in terms of student satisfaction and social life, plus the whole hardcore investment banking culture it apparently has seems pretty lame and superficial. The only plus that I can see with LSE over UCL is that it is more respected internationally (and domestically), but the gap isn't that large at all and perceptions will definitely shift in the coming years.


Beautifully said. Glad you chose UCL. Definitely the right decision.
Original post by therealOG
I have offers from both LSE and UCL (LSE - BSc Geography with Economics, UCL - BSc Geography and Economics). I've just firmed UCL. I feel that UCL will give me a far better social life, the course has equal weighting in both subjects and the flexibility to go 75/25 in the third year in either subject, UCL's Geog and Econ departments are world class and recognised and UCL is a target uni in the finance and consultancy sectors. Granted LSE has better employment figures but that's just an average, if you're a top student choosing UCL won't be a disadvantage at all. And LSE has a terrible rep in terms of student satisfaction and social life, plus the whole hardcore investment banking culture it apparently has seems pretty lame and superficial. The only plus that I can see with LSE over UCL is that it is more respected internationally (and domestically), but the gap isn't that large at all and perceptions will definitely shift in the coming years.


From an impartial point of view, the fact that you spend half a page justifying your decision shows u are not 100% with your decision and believe wot u are saying...:wink:
Reply 91
Original post by rtzj00
From an impartial point of view, the fact that you spend half a page justifying your decision shows u are not 100% with your decision and believe wot u are saying...:wink:


Of course I'm not 100% sure with my decision - it's more like 90%. LSE being a world leading social science institution with massive amounts of reputation and prestige made this decision very hard. But in the end, after weighing up all the factors involved, I believe that UCL will be the better choice for me. I'm going to spend 3 years of my life somewhere and I'm 90% sure UCL will give me the best overall experience and education without sacrificing anything more than a slither of extra employability and connections that I would get from LSE. And I didn't write half a page :wink:.
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Reply 92
Original post by therealOG
Of course I'm not 100% sure with my decision - it's more like 90%. LSE being a world leading social science institution with massive amounts of reputation and prestige made this decision very hard. But in the end, after weighing up all the factors involved, I believe that UCL will be the better choice for me. I'm going to spend 3 years of my life somewhere and I'm 90% sure UCL will give me the best overall experience and education without sacrificing anything more than a slither of extra employability and connections that I would get from LSE. And I didn't write half a page :wink:.


Reputation of LSE comes from it's graduate research, these grads come from various of other universities who decides to stay in academia. You will benefit from nothing by going to LSE but only the bragging rights to your grand parents about the "prestige", which is more or less on par with UCL anyway.
Reply 93
Original post by flume
Right-wing uni?
If you're going political, I do believe LSE was founded by Sidney Webb, who was a socialist!


Nowadays there's a massive right wing investment banking culture at LSE. Although I'm sure there's still quite a few lefties over there, nowhere near as much as in the 70's though.
Reply 94
Original post by dawgnut
Reputation of LSE comes from it's graduate research, these grads come from various of other universities who decides to stay in academia. You will benefit from nothing by going to LSE but only the bragging rights to your grand parents about the "prestige", which is more or less on par with UCL anyway.


And also it's undergrad courses (Economics, International Relations) which are internationally renowned. And also it's ridiculously high employment figures, average starting salaries and links with investment banks. To me LSE has more of a "wow" factor, over time it will change though.
Personally I've always rated LSE as the better university (and I study at UCL btw).

It depends what way you're looking at it. As a huge multi-faculty, internationally renowned educational institution UCL is without a doubt the better overall uni. I believe the education is of a higher quality, it takes more of an academic angle so the way things are taught are in a way that promotes the gain of knowledge and education. LSE on the other hand is clearly more career-driven, it focuses more on the application of knowledge (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

However, if you look at them as institutions that serve those who participate...LSE is better at doing what it does best than UCL is in doing what it does best.

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