Original post by Sev99
tell me !! theres nothign much on the internet lately- im applying after summer, and have no idea- I want to do schools (for primary btw) so please give me some advice?
I think it's more a case of which is the best for you. As it self-describes, Schools Direct is more school-based as a course, and if that's something that would suit you then go for it. If you're hesitant to jump straight into a lot of time in a school and would prefer to be able to spend a bit more time thinking and learning about teaching rather than observing/helping/practising then perhaps the PGCE is for you. It's purely a case of what works better for you.
I did a pgce and someone else at my second placement did sd. A post came up and I got the job over him. He stayed for 6 weeks while I stayed for around 12.
People say sd is more respected but from my chats with mentors, it doesn't matter to them at all. The trainees strengths are what matter and time spent in placement obviously increases exposure . If you think your host school will be hiring, sd may make more sense.
People say sd is more respected but from my chats with mentors, it doesn't matter to them at all. The trainees strengths are what matter and time spent in placement obviously increases exposure . If you think your host school will be hiring, sd may make more sense.
PGCE gives you more time to develop as a practitioner, you get to see many different styles of teaching and have placement in multiple schools.
SD gives your more experience teaching and developing your own style as you are in school for much more of the time.
If you want my personal opinion, the PGCE is a better option (I did not do a PGCE). Although the SD route gives you much more experience, graduates sometimes posses narrow minded views as they have gained the majority of their pedagogical knowledge and experience from the school they trained in. The PGCE will allow you to gain knowledge from subject-specific lecturers who are experts in their field. You will then have phased placements with an increasing workload.
HOWEVER, neither route is favoured over the other during a recruitment process the job will go to the best candidate no matter whether they are PGCE or SD. My opinion is based on how much you want to gain from your training. If you want to spend time observing and working in different provisions then go PGCE.
SD gives your more experience teaching and developing your own style as you are in school for much more of the time.
If you want my personal opinion, the PGCE is a better option (I did not do a PGCE). Although the SD route gives you much more experience, graduates sometimes posses narrow minded views as they have gained the majority of their pedagogical knowledge and experience from the school they trained in. The PGCE will allow you to gain knowledge from subject-specific lecturers who are experts in their field. You will then have phased placements with an increasing workload.
HOWEVER, neither route is favoured over the other during a recruitment process the job will go to the best candidate no matter whether they are PGCE or SD. My opinion is based on how much you want to gain from your training. If you want to spend time observing and working in different provisions then go PGCE.
Original post by bwilliams
PGCE gives you more time to develop as a practitioner, you get to see many different styles of teaching and have placement in multiple schools.
SD gives your more experience teaching and developing your own style as you are in school for much more of the time.
SD gives your more experience teaching and developing your own style as you are in school for much more of the time.
I don't get it whats the difference? Cud u give an example?
Original post by Zabidoo
I don't get it whats the difference? Cud u give an example?
PGCE you spend time in university working with other trainee teachers and receive lectures on how to teach - what good practice looks like, outstanding teaching examples. You then have placements, usually in at least two different schools. These will have percentage teach times that increase, so you are eased in and have time to adapt and develop. You will get to see different schools and see how they work, importantly this will give you a chance to compare and contrast the schools you have worked in. This will begin to develop your opinion of a school that 'works for you' and a personal position on the kind of school you would like to work in.
SD is usually a school centred training. You will gain your qualification through a university, but the time you spend there is dramatically reduced. You will be in school from the beginning and the majority of training will come from your host school. You usually only get to work in one school. You get to gain an abundance of experience through this route and it helps you develop your own style as you can reflect on things that go badly etc. However, I don't feel it gives you the significant time to research good practice, observe other practitioners teach etc., but people may have different experiences. The SD route has a salaried option. Although, the main benefit of this is you get paid - I would advise you to take that with a pinch of salt. This is because as soon as you are paid for what you are doing the feeling becomes different.
Original post by bwilliams
PGCE you spend time in university working with other trainee teachers and receive lectures on how to teach - what good practice looks like, outstanding teaching examples. You then have placements, usually in at least two different schools. These will have percentage teach times that increase, so you are eased in and have time to adapt and develop. You will get to see different schools and see how they work, importantly this will give you a chance to compare and contrast the schools you have worked in. This will begin to develop your opinion of a school that 'works for you' and a personal position on the kind of school you would like to work in.
SD is usually a school centred training. You will gain your qualification through a university, but the time you spend there is dramatically reduced. You will be in school from the beginning and the majority of training will come from your host school. You usually only get to work in one school. You get to gain an abundance of experience through this route and it helps you develop your own style as you can reflect on things that go badly etc. However, I don't feel it gives you the significant time to research good practice, observe other practitioners teach etc., but people may have different experiences. The SD route has a salaried option. Although, the main benefit of this is you get paid - I would advise you to take that with a pinch of salt. This is because as soon as you are paid for what you are doing the feeling becomes different.
SD is usually a school centred training. You will gain your qualification through a university, but the time you spend there is dramatically reduced. You will be in school from the beginning and the majority of training will come from your host school. You usually only get to work in one school. You get to gain an abundance of experience through this route and it helps you develop your own style as you can reflect on things that go badly etc. However, I don't feel it gives you the significant time to research good practice, observe other practitioners teach etc., but people may have different experiences. The SD route has a salaried option. Although, the main benefit of this is you get paid - I would advise you to take that with a pinch of salt. This is because as soon as you are paid for what you are doing the feeling becomes different.
Oh ok thanks so much, this rly helped me!!
Depending on your route you can go directly into social sciences/teaching or you could specialise in another subject like math/chemistry/the arts and then do a PGCE conversion
Original post by Zabidoo
What is schools direct and pgce?
I want to become a primary school teacher also, but I've only just made my decision on a-level choices 😂
I'd like to know what my options are for uni and which would suit me (an introverted girl) the best
I want to become a primary school teacher also, but I've only just made my decision on a-level choices 😂
I'd like to know what my options are for uni and which would suit me (an introverted girl) the best
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