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Dual field nursing?

Hi, I'm in my first year of college and Im looking to apply to dual field nursing in Southampton and Oxford brookes. I'm still unsure if I want to do mental health and adult or mental health and child, and I'm struggling to find any info online. Anyone doing these courses? any feedback
Original post by talisweet
Hi, I'm in my first year of college and Im looking to apply to dual field nursing in Southampton and Oxford brookes. I'm still unsure if I want to do mental health and adult or mental health and child, and I'm struggling to find any info online. Anyone doing these courses? any feedback


There are very few benefits to doing a dual-registration course if any, employers generally don't have a good view of what they actually include and you may find it actually limits your job prospects. The two options you discuss are vastly different and have wholly different careers associated with them. If you are keen to do mental health then I'd recommend a straight MH nursing degree which will allow you to work with adults and young people.
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Original post by Charlotte's Web
There are very few benefits to doing a dual-registration course if any, employers generally don't have a good view of what they actually include and you may find it actually limits your job prospects. The two options you discuss are vastly different and have wholly different careers associated with them. If you are keen to do mental health then I'd recommend a straight MH nursing degree which will allow you to work with adults and young people.

Hi, I'm surprised by this as I've never heard it limiting job prospects, I've only ever heard that it gives you more choice. I realise that they're different, that's the reason I'd like to do the dual field, as I am interested in both sides. From what I've seen, mental health nursing includes less of the medicine side of things and I dont want to completely rule that out. Have you done the dual field degree?
Original post by talisweet
Hi, I'm surprised by this as I've never heard it limiting job prospects, I've only ever heard that it gives you more choice. I realise that they're different, that's the reason I'd like to do the dual field, as I am interested in both sides. From what I've seen, mental health nursing includes less of the medicine side of things and I dont want to completely rule that out. Have you done the dual field degree?


The issue is that employers often don't see it that way. If you were, for example, recruiting for a nurse for a surgical ward, you're likely to state you are looking for an adult trained nurse on the job application. If you have 5 good applicants, would you pick the one who has spent 50% of their time training in a different field and who may therefore not be wholly committed to your role? Unfortunately often these degrees can make you awkwardly stuck in the middle rather than giving you more choice. I imagine you would not have any issues getting a job, but I just think it's important that you consider how that sort of degree might look to employers.

It is possible to cross over roles from single field nursing. If you have experience and passion then it is possible to work in a field different to the one you trained in. There is a lot of crossover in the fields anyway, in any MH setting you will have people with physical health problems and vice versa. For example, I completed an adult nursing degree yet had no problem getting a job offer working in a specialist unit for people with autism or a neurological rehab unit which was part of a MH trust.

I didn't do a dual field degree for the above reasons, plus it wasn't in line with my career plans.
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Original post by Charlotte's Web
The issue is that employers often don't see it that way. If you were, for example, recruiting for a nurse for a surgical ward, you're likely to state you are looking for an adult trained nurse on the job application. If you have 5 good applicants, would you pick the one who has spent 50% of their time training in a different field and who may therefore not be wholly committed to your role? Unfortunately often these degrees can make you awkwardly stuck in the middle rather than giving you more choice. I imagine you would not have any issues getting a job, but I just think it's important that you consider how that sort of degree might look to employers.

It is possible to cross over roles from single field nursing. If you have experience and passion then it is possible to work in a field different to the one you trained in. There is a lot of crossover in the fields anyway, in any MH setting you will have people with physical health problems and vice versa. For example, I completed an adult nursing degree yet had no problem getting a job offer working in a specialist unit for people with autism or a neurological rehab unit which was part of a MH trust.

I didn't do a dual field degree for the above reasons, plus it wasn't in line with my career plans.

For an area with so many vacancies I'm surprised that people are being turned away because they have more than one field of qualification. Thankyou for your help though.
Original post by talisweet
For an area with so many vacancies I'm surprised that people are being turned away because they have more than one field of qualification. Thankyou for your help though.


As I said, I find it highly unlikely you will struggle to find a job. However, if you apply for competitive posts where there are other applicants you may be at a disadvantage. Again, it isn't really more than one field of qualification, it's a degree which is split into two fields (e.g. someone who does a history and psychology degree isn't as qualified as someone who did solely history).
Hello,I know this post is from two years ago but I'd like to comment just in case anyone else ever reads this and is considering this course.I'm in my third year of Msc dual field adult and mental health course at Southampton university. In nearly every single one of my placements I have been offered jobs. This qualification certainly does not limit your opportunities, but broadens them immensely. Not only have I been offered jobs since my first year, I have been offered jobs as a band 6 and a developmental role in a band 7 as an Advanced Nurse Practitioner. This course is considered
Original post by Charlotte's Web
As I said, I find it highly unlikely you will struggle to find a job. However, if you apply for competitive posts where there are other applicants you may be at a disadvantage. Again, it isn't really more than one field of qualification, it's a degree which is split into two fields (e.g. someone who does a history and psychology degree isn't as qualified as someone who did solely history).

I can confirm it is not combined!
I will qualify with two separate degrees. I will be as qualified as an adult nurse and as qualified as a mental health nurse.
Original post by emily.anglia
I can confirm it is not combined!
I will qualify with two separate degrees. I will be as qualified as an adult nurse and as qualified as a mental health nurse.


How was interview like? I'm thinking of applying for dual registration but just want to know if the requirements are higher or if it's harder to get accepted
Original post by talisweet
Hi, I'm in my first year of college and Im looking to apply to dual field nursing in Southampton and Oxford brookes. I'm still unsure if I want to do mental health and adult or mental health and child, and I'm struggling to find any info online. Anyone doing these courses? any feedback


Hi. I am an admissions tutor at Southampton and until recently I was the programme lead for our Dual Field programmes. It is simply not true that these course limit job prospects. Some students find they have a preference for one field or another and find employment there. Other students do find roles where they are making use of both fields of registration from the start, and local trusts are working with us to develop support and career pathways for dual registrants.

Either way, your additional perspectives (and masters level qualification) are attractive to employers -and in my experience most students are choosing between a range of job offers at the end of their programme.
Original post by talisweet
Hi, I'm in my first year of college and Im looking to apply to dual field nursing in Southampton and Oxford brookes. I'm still unsure if I want to do mental health and adult or mental health and child, and I'm struggling to find any info online. Anyone doing these courses? any feedback

"Hi!

It's wonderful to hear you are considering the University of Southampton as well as the dual field programme.

I am a first year student on the Adult and Child programme. The dual field programme provides a unique opportunity to understand multiple areas of the career. You gain two separate registrations under the NMC (you are fully qualified in both areas!). Southampton is a regional trauma centre and recceives patients from around the county and local areas for children, adult and mental health. This means, the experience you will gain here will be the same as any major centre such as London without having to live in a massive city. Our lecturers are researchers meaning they are guiding the future of healthcare (you may have seen the breast cancer research in the news reccently). Also, it is a huge bonus having the dual qualification as it provides unqiue skills. For example, mental health skills on any ward e.g. adult or child will be hugely valuable as these patients are present on all wards. During your training, you will also have a huge variety of placements including community, hospital and high acuity. Finally, the programme at Southampton leaves you with a Masters of Nursing which means you will gain experience in research if this is something you are interested in.

Any other questions please let me know!

Mary (Adult and Child Nursing)
University of Southampton (Official Rep)"
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Original post by Uni of Southampton Students
"Hi!

It's wonderful to hear you are considering the University of Southampton as well as the dual field programme.

I am a first year student on the Adult and Child programme. The dual field programme provides a unique opportunity to understand multiple areas of the career. You gain two separate registrations under the NMC (you are fully qualified in both areas!). Southampton is a regional trauma centre and recceives patients from around the county and local areas for children, adult and mental health. This means, the experience you will gain here will be the same as any major centre such as London without having to live in a massive city. Our lecturers are researchers meaning they are guiding the future of healthcare (you may have seen the breast cancer research in the news reccently). Also, it is a huge bonus having the dual qualification as it provides unqiue skills. For example, mental health skills on any ward e.g. adult or child will be hugely valuable as these patients are present on all wards. During your training, you will also have a huge variety of placements including community, hospital and high acuity. Finally, the programme at Southampton leaves you with a Masters of Nursing which means you will gain experience in research if this is something you are interested in.

Any other questions please let me know!

Mary (Adult and Child Nursing)
University of Southampton (Official Rep)"


Hi Mary,

How many places are there on the dual field course, also how do students re-validate in both areas and is this difficult? What happens if you get a job in only one area eg children, will you no longer be able to work in adults or how does that work? thanks
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Original post by BCD1
Hi Mary,

How many places are there on the dual field course, also how do students re-validate in both areas and is this difficult? What happens if you get a job in only one area eg children, will you no longer be able to work in adults or how does that work? thanks

Hi there, I will be starting at the Uni of Southampton in a week for adult and child nursing and from my knowledge I know that if you decide to work in an area that is children then you can take up bank shifts in areas containing adult to maintain your dual registration.
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Original post by Feeb_05
Hi there, I will be starting at the Uni of Southampton in a week for adult and child nursing and from my knowledge I know that if you decide to work in an area that is children then you can take up bank shifts in areas containing adult to maintain your dual registration.


Thanks for your reply, I had heard that you can't take up bank shifts in an area for example adults unless you have completed the 6 months preceptorship in that area, which you would not have done if your job was in children's? Do you know if that is correct?
Reply 14
Original post by BCD1
Thanks for your reply, I had heard that you can't take up bank shifts in an area for example adults unless you have completed the 6 months preceptorship in that area, which you would not have done if your job was in children's? Do you know if that is correct?

I believe that NMC preceptorships is a period of support which your employer is supposed to give you so I believe this shouldn’t affect the bank roles you would have in a different area as it is to ensure you settle into your role as a nurse as a whole and is only for new registrations after you complete your course. Also this is only for within the NHS, preceptorship is not compulsory and so many employers do not enforce this.

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