Time University Rankings 2009

woah what happened??
king's is ABOVE ucl???
that's weird

It's great, I'm (hopefully) going to King's for Law so it can keep on moving up the table as far as I'm concerned!

Graduate prospects for Oxford are 88% though

What is that based on?

I do like Ann Coulter actually. She's far from a national joke in the US. I absolutely understand where she is coming from in that quote of hers you use. Its called being strong on National Security - something Liberals know nothing about.

Therefore, in accordance with your rational- Southampton is on par with Oxford since they both have 5*B departments?
When I visited Southampton and spoke to one of the final year students she explicitly stated that only 5 people had secured training contracts. When visiting Manchester however, it is clear by the shear amount of sponsorship from leading firms, that they are regarded very highly.
Also taking into account applicant/place ratios and entry standards, Warwick and Manchester are far more difficult to get into. This would suggest that they may be better because they are more sought after, or they may be better because they arguably have higher calibre undergraduates.

Applicant to place ratios (Warwick and Manchester both 14/1; Leicester and Southampton both 7/1 : Based on 2007 stats)
Entry standards (Warwick and Manchester both AAA, Southampton AAA/AAB and Leicester AAB).

Meaning what

You know what this thread needs? A good Tripos debate.

I personally think they should take the mean score of all your results from exams that were sat on a Monday, add that to the mode of all your results, then subtract the median of your third year results, and that will decide on what degree class you get.

Solemn?

If the point you are making is that Manchester and Wariwck are in higher demand then yes I'd agree with you (higher grades are a result of higher demand). But that doesn't make them better (hence the RAE and NSS scores). My point is people need to look at the evidence and make their own decisions about choices and not follow folklore and the herd.

you can do it at NOttingham. You have to apply for straight law and then apply for a transfer in your second year though, and Melbourne is fairly competitive primarily because at present there is only one place to go there.

Your first year results are relevant but by no means determinative. I only got a 2.2 in first year, and some people with far better grades than me were rejected for transfer, because another criteria is "suitability for study abroad". In essence this gives them the ability to not send people they don't like for whatever reason.