Difference which medical school studied at when going for a job?

River85

The cries of discrimination were even more absurd as the admissions tutor was both school educated and (I think) from the region.

The admissions tutor involved is my friends dad! Two of the 4 selected were state school - apparently she interviewed really poorly...

Ms Spence is currently on the GEP programme at Cambridge...

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marlyly

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kadhumia_flo

Hey

I was just wondering if going to a more prestigious university makes a difference when applying to be a doctor (perhaps in a competitive speciality). Is a second (or first) honours degree given the same credit whatever the uni.

Thanks

From all the previous posts you've probably gathered that employers are not going to discriminate against anyone because of their university. But what's also important to note is that though it may not directly make a difference, it porbably does indirectly (I know all medical schools have certain minimum standards and requirements, but certain unis seem to expect more from their students than others, and if you are taught and trained better at med school, then you probably will be at an advantage when applying to be a doctor).

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Helenia

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Fluffy

The admissions tutor involved is my friends dad! Two of the 4 selected were state school - apparently she interviewed really poorly...

Ms Spence is currently on the GEP programme at Cambridge...

Not any more - barring some catastrophe I'm unaware of, she graduated in the summer. I could go and check the pass list, which is still up in the clinical school, but that would be a bit sad...

And I'm not getting into the rest of the can of worms. :p:

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jismith1989

I have no knowledge on this, but it does seem quite patent that an Oxbridge medicine degree, for example, would be considered higher than a University of Gloucester one; doesn't it? :curious:

Evidently so, for there is no medical school in Gloucester.

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Chrisateen

Also I thought you are garanteed a job if you get into medical school so therefore it doesn't matter

Lol!!!

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imtired

are there any differences in difficulty between medicine courses? if all medicine degrees are equal when applying to be a doctor, but the courses aren't... entry requirements are different... i'm not applying for medicine but wouldn't most people go for an 'easier' course, and will still be able to become doctors?

What, like the difference between AAA and AAB offers?

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Renal

marlyly

(I know all medical schools have certain minimum standards and requirements, but certain unis seem to expect more from their students than others, and if you are taught and trained better at med school, then you probably will be at an advantage when applying to be a doctor).

It probably does, but not necessarily the way you think;

Doctors from the old skool skools did knew less in their second year post-qual than from the new skool skools - why? :wink:

When it was 'measured' in 2000 (or was it 01?), which medical school produced the best junior doctors according to the GMC? Was it Oxford, Cambridge or some PBL based ******** in East London?

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visesh

Vaz, if you're worried about being 'censored', don't. When it comes to applying for foundation jobs, very few people are going to have a BA as opposed to a BSc/BMedSci/etc. or nothing. Your precious Cambridge education will not be hidden from the world.

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visesh

Renal

It probably does, but not necessarily the way you think;

Doctors from the old skool skools did knew less in their second year post-qual than from the new skool skools - why? :wink:

When it was 'measured' in 2000 (or was it 01?), which medical school produced the best junior doctors according to the GMC? Was it Oxford, Cambridge or some PBL based ******** in East London?

Where does MRCP performance fit in with your argument then? :P

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Renal

visesh

Where does MRCP performance fit in with your argument then? :P

Hehe. That depends on whether the MRCP is a good marker of a doctors quality. :p:

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Elles

Fluffy

The admissions tutor involved is my friends dad! Two of the 4 selected were state school - apparently she interviewed really poorly...

& that cohort also had people from the north, females & ethnic minorities.
So as it happened, more total PC points than her anyway, if that was what mattered. :rolleyes:

They were a very strong bunch though so if any criticism is to be made perhaps it would be towards the old system where pooling between colleges was more ad hoc - whereas now everyone for medicine shortlisted is now interviewed at 2 places. But then Magdalen was/is always on of the big poolers anyway - they make it a selling point! So, meh...

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Helenia

Not any more - barring some catastrophe I'm unaware of, she graduated in the summer. I could go and check the pass list, which is still up in the clinical school, but that would be a bit sad...

And I'm not getting into the rest of the can of worms. :p:

I thought she started the year after me, making her a finalist? Oh well...

Have to admit, I've always felt quite sorry for her. Well, that's if the rumour that it was her head of 6th forms "issue" and they used her to make their misplaced point is true. It must be difficult for her to gain respect/trust from the off - she must have to work wtice as hard as the rest of us at that, for fear of misplaced whistleblowing and story selling...

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visesh

Vaz, if you're worried about being 'censored', don't. When it comes to applying for foundation jobs, very few people are going to have a BA as opposed to a BSc/BMedSci/etc. or nothing. Your precious Cambridge education will not be hidden from the world.

There are PLENTY of graduates studying medicine with non-OxBridge BAs though... i.e. of the arts degree type. Lots with arts type OxBridge BAs too...

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visesh

Fluffy

There are PLENTY of graduates studying medicine with non-OxBridge BAs though... i.e. of the arts degree type. Lots with arts type OxBridge BAs too...

I was just trying to make him feel a little better :wink:

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Alex D

This line is a contradiction in itself. There is a vast, vast difference between being one of the "very, very best prospective medical students at 18" and being one of the very, very best junior doctors at 23. I am 18 and, in an academic sense, not one of the very best prospective medics; I recently got ABB and hence failed to meet my offer and take up my place at med school. Does this mean I won't be a good doctor at 23? No.

I strongly agree.

Being an excellent candidate for med school at 18 with dazzling GCSEs and A Levels etc may refect well on you and demonstrate certain talents, however this does not necessarily correspond with being a better doctor than someone who didn't go to Cambridge.

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7589200

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visesh

Vaz, if you're worried about being 'censored', don't. When it comes to applying for foundation jobs, very few people are going to have a BA as opposed to a BSc/BMedSci/etc. or nothing. Your precious Cambridge education will not be hidden from the world.

aww cool, thanks lol :p:

but still, you know, as a principle of anti-censorship, I still feel we need to be able to write down how we did and where we did it - like i said, for better or for worse.

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7589200

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visesh

I was just trying to make him feel a little better :wink:

surely they're all older than 23 though :wink:

18 + 3 + 4 etc.

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