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Are school teachers lazy?

What full time job is there where you get 14 weeks paid holiday each year in addition to umpteen inset days (coffee days) and only need to work from 9am to 3:30pm? Ah yes teaching! Effectively it’s a part time job with full time pay that hard working tax payers are paying for, but not getting a lot in return.

Children have lost months and months of education due to Covid yet the extravagant long holidays are protected. 7 weeks off this summer and it seems head teachers decide when the schools go back, they might just as well return when the teachers feel like it which would probably be never. It’s now September and they still have another week off! Teaching assistants also need to do fat more to help teachers and pupils.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816819/Teachers-lazy-turn-late-t-bothered-set-homework-says-superhead-sent-failing-school.html

Sorry if this sounds like a rant but kids are in desperate need of education. They have almost lost a year. Now we are an independent stand alone nation free from Europe, we need our children to be highly educated and ready to fulfil their meaningful role in society or higher education. We don’t want to become a land of poorly educated youngsters because our nation will become a laughing stock.

Holidays should be reduced to max of:
4 weeks in summer.
2 weeks at Christmas
1 week at Easter
And 3 half term weeks.
Inset days should either be scrapped or done during holiday time.

Do teachers need to work harder?h
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Reply 1
You are being too hard on them. Teaching is a very hard profession and dealing with hundreds of teenagers and children is never easy.
Used to be a trainee teacher myself.

Imagine working 10 hours a day, 5 days a week plus an additional 6-10 hours on a Saturday prepping lessons to help aid those with special educational needs whilst also dealing with abuse from some kids for attempting to do your job to help them.

Then you need to mark homework, set it, prep it and all above make sure they understand it and if they don’t, how do you redo the lesson to make sure it goes in?

Could go on forever to be honest.
Reply 3
Original post by Ambitious1999
What full time job is there where you get 14 weeks paid holiday each year in addition to umpteen inset days (coffee days) and only need to work from 9am to 3:30pm? Ah yes teaching! Effectively it’s a part time job with full time pay that hard working tax payers are paying for, but not getting a lot in return.

Children have lost months and months of education due to Covid yet the extravagant long holidays are protected. 7 weeks off this summer and it seems head teachers decide when the schools go back, they might just as well return when the teachers feel like it which would probably be never. It’s now September and they still have another week off! Teaching assistants also need to do fat more to help teachers and pupils.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816819/Teachers-lazy-turn-late-t-bothered-set-homework-says-superhead-sent-failing-school.html

Sorry if this sounds like a rant but kids are in desperate need of education. They have almost lost a year. Now we are an independent stand alone nation free from Europe, we need our children to be highly educated and ready to fulfil their meaningful role in society or higher education. We don’t want to become a land of poorly educated youngsters because our nation will become a laughing stock.

Holidays should be reduced to max of:
4 weeks in summer.
2 weeks at Christmas
1 week at Easter
And 3 half term weeks.
Inset days should either be scrapped or done during holiday time.

Do teachers need to work harder?h

What gives you the impression that teachers' working hours are 100 percent face-to-face student contact time?
The hours are more than 9 until half 3. They have to spend a load of time marking, filling out forms and preparing lessons too. Most teachers tend to work late and at weekends too, it's actually one of the more demanding professions and the the drop out rate is very high.

Of course if you still believe it's such an easy and great job maybe you should get into it yourself. You won't be talking about how easy it is for long.
Reply 5
Original post by Ambitious1999
What full time job is there where you get 14 weeks paid holiday each year in addition to umpteen inset days (coffee days) and only need to work from 9am to 3:30pm? Ah yes teaching! Effectively it’s a part time job with full time pay that hard working tax payers are paying for, but not getting a lot in return.

Children have lost months and months of education due to Covid yet the extravagant long holidays are protected. 7 weeks off this summer and it seems head teachers decide when the schools go back, they might just as well return when the teachers feel like it which would probably be never. It’s now September and they still have another week off! Teaching assistants also need to do fat more to help teachers and pupils.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816819/Teachers-lazy-turn-late-t-bothered-set-homework-says-superhead-sent-failing-school.html

Sorry if this sounds like a rant but kids are in desperate need of education. They have almost lost a year. Now we are an independent stand alone nation free from Europe, we need our children to be highly educated and ready to fulfil their meaningful role in society or higher education. We don’t want to become a land of poorly educated youngsters because our nation will become a laughing stock.

Holidays should be reduced to max of:
4 weeks in summer.
2 weeks at Christmas
1 week at Easter
And 3 half term weeks.
Inset days should either be scrapped or done during holiday time.

Do teachers need to work harder?h


Errr I think you’re forgetting that teachers are giving every single member of the future generations the vital education they need in order to continue a functioning society that knows how to do basic maths and English and knows how to read??

The hours are there for the kids rather than the teachers as kids can’t concentrate for longer than 9 - 3:30 so this absolutely can’t be blamed on the teachers. Moreover teachers do a load of stuff outside of the regular school hours like, um, planning each individual lesson and how to teach it because they don’t just appear out of nowhere, marking, printing off and making resources, and some teachers even stay behind after school for free to help kids or offer them an extracurricular activity just because they care.

Are you a teacher? Do you know anything that you’ve said for a fact from multiple inside sources? Or do you just trust the daily mail 😳
Reply 6
Original post by Reality Check
Nuance isn't really your thing, is it?

I don't usually bite with your flames and trolling, but even for you this is a particularly silly, ill-informed rant. The fact that you call INSET days 'coffee days', think that a teacher's day finishes when lessons finish at 3.30pm and have referenced the Daily Fail in support of your 'argument' shows that you know precisely nothing about teaching, how a school works or any of the actual facts or practicalities you'd need to construct a serious argument, comme d'habitude.

As for the 'hard-working tax payers' bit, I thought you were on benefits, from previous posting? Bit ironic to be talking about 'hard-working tax payers', isn't it?


Agreed, reality.
If the only source supporting your argument is a 2014 Daily Mail article, you may as well quit now
Reply 8
You can't generalise all teachers who are passionate about teaching and education when you may have only met a couple of teachers who you don't like.
Reply 9
You think they only work 9am-3:30pm?

Do you not have the faintest idea what a teacher has to do outside that time as well to be ready to teach in that time frame?
Posts like this annoy me so much.

Unless you have been through teacher training/are a teacher, you're really not in a position to talk.
Original post by harrysbar
The annoying thing is if the government wasted a bit less money on teachers salary, there would be more left over for hard working benefit claimants like OP :angry:


I’m not on benefits at all!
Original post by 1secondsofvamps
Posts like this annoy me so much.

Unless you have been through teacher training/are a teacher, you're really not in a position to talk.

The teachers I’ve seen seem to get home the same time as the school pupils and spend most of their time in pubs and spending the entire 7 week summer holiday travelling while normal people are working their fingers to the bone earning a pittance to pay for childcare while the schools are shut and semi derelict for 7 weeks and have to pay taxes for teachers to have extravagantly long paid holidays.
Teachers should spare a thought for the parents who are going through torture during the long summer break and trying to hold down a job.
Reply 13
Go do a PGCE mate
Original post by Ambitious1999
What full time job is there where you get 14 weeks paid holiday each year in addition to umpteen inset days (coffee days) and only need to work from 9am to 3:30pm? Ah yes teaching! Effectively it’s a part time job with full time pay that hard working tax payers are paying for, but not getting a lot in return.

Children have lost months and months of education due to Covid yet the extravagant long holidays are protected. 7 weeks off this summer and it seems head teachers decide when the schools go back, they might just as well return when the teachers feel like it which would probably be never. It’s now September and they still have another week off! Teaching assistants also need to do fat more to help teachers and pupils.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816819/Teachers-lazy-turn-late-t-bothered-set-homework-says-superhead-sent-failing-school.html

Sorry if this sounds like a rant but kids are in desperate need of education. They have almost lost a year. Now we are an independent stand alone nation free from Europe, we need our children to be highly educated and ready to fulfil their meaningful role in society or higher education. We don’t want to become a land of poorly educated youngsters because our nation will become a laughing stock.

Holidays should be reduced to max of:
4 weeks in summer.
2 weeks at Christmas
1 week at Easter
And 3 half term weeks.
Inset days should either be scrapped or done during holiday time.

Do teachers need to work harder?h

you give me tory vibes. a lot of tory vibes.
Reply 15
To answer your question though, go work on shifts in the chemical waste processing or distillation industry to be at home for 50% of the year.

You're welcome
Original post by Ambitious1999
What full time job is there where you get 14 weeks paid holiday each year in addition to umpteen inset days (coffee days) and only need to work from 9am to 3:30pm? Ah yes teaching! Effectively it’s a part time job with full time pay that hard working tax payers are paying for, but not getting a lot in return.

Children have lost months and months of education due to Covid yet the extravagant long holidays are protected. 7 weeks off this summer and it seems head teachers decide when the schools go back, they might just as well return when the teachers feel like it which would probably be never. It’s now September and they still have another week off! Teaching assistants also need to do fat more to help teachers and pupils.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816819/Teachers-lazy-turn-late-t-bothered-set-homework-says-superhead-sent-failing-school.html

Sorry if this sounds like a rant but kids are in desperate need of education. They have almost lost a year. Now we are an independent stand alone nation free from Europe, we need our children to be highly educated and ready to fulfil their meaningful role in society or higher education. We don’t want to become a land of poorly educated youngsters because our nation will become a laughing stock.

Holidays should be reduced to max of:
4 weeks in summer.
2 weeks at Christmas
1 week at Easter
And 3 half term weeks.
Inset days should either be scrapped or done during holiday time.

Do teachers need to work harder?h


lol.. if you are so eager to learn, why don't you try learn independently. We have the internet now, which allows us to access many resources online... infact im doing that myself

Teachers in my opinion have a lot to do.. they have a lot of marking from a lot of classes, which includes tests as well as HW. Just because there is not a lot of face to face time, doesnt mean they should work for longer. Personally i prefer the way the lessons are now. Imo, its long enough.. plus someone already listed what teachers do when they are not teaching...
Original post by Ambitious1999
The teachers I’ve seen seem to get home the same time as the school pupils and spend most of their time in pubs and spending the entire 7 week summer holiday travelling while normal people are working their fingers to the bone earning a pittance to pay for childcare while the schools are shut and semi derelict for 7 weeks and have to pay taxes for teachers to have extravagantly long paid holidays.
Teachers should spare a thought for the parents who are going through torture during the long summer break and trying to hold down a job.


Just because teachers can leave school the same time as their pupils, it doesn't mean their work is done for the day. Evenings can be filled with CPD, planning etc

As someone who has just completed their PGCE, I can confirm that a lot more goes on beyond "teaching hours"
If teaching was effectively a part time job, we would solve the the teaching recruitment/retention problem overnight.
Reply 19
Another grossly simplistic and generalising question.. of course some teachers will be lazy and others will work their socks off. Just like their students, although given students all the way up to degree level dont really do that much id say by comparison the teacher is a hell of a lot more productive, not least because they have more riding on it.

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