The EU. Good or bad?

Do you think the EU is a good thing or a bad thing?

Should Britain be a member of the EU or not? Is it worth the hassle?

If you want Britain out the EU, like me then send you support for the formation of a TSR UKIP to daniel_williams .

Thanks

Reply 1

Rocious

I like the EU. It gave my country money and more attractive men.

Reply 2

OP

Rocious

I like the EU. It gave my country money and more attractive men.

But for Britain it has been nothing but a disaster.

PLEASE NOTE: If you send your support for the formation of UKIP to daniel_williams, then you will become eligible to stand for the leadership of the TSR UKIP Party!

Reply 3

Rocious

It gave you more attractive people.

Reply 4

OP

Rocious

It gave you more attractive people.

But it has taken alot of our money and given us excessive restriction, far too many decisions and regultaions are made in Europe which cannot be held accountable, and not in Britain where actions can be held accountable.

An example of excessive regulation, is that EU law prohibits Britain from having VAT below 15%!!!!! That is a ridiculous rule to have, and should not be within EU powers to decide.
Another huge problem with the EU is their immigration enforcement and job control. In the UK if a doctor from India applies for a job, and a doctor from the EU applies for a job, the EU doctor must be employed even if the Indian doctor is better qualified!!! As well as this, we are not allowed stop the migration of citizens from EU countries into our own! We have effectively lost control of our borders!

I have the example of Switzerland to show how successful a country can be without the EU.

Overall the EU has become far too powerful, and is gaining more power every day. We must ensure that laws are made by the British Parliament and not the EU. Nedless to say the TSR tories have no stance on Europe.

Reply 5

NoHands

17

well, its been good to ireland! huzzah for the EU! (even if it did cause or housing/general meltdown crisis)

Reply 6

Annie354

14

The EU is ace!
Money well spent!

Stop presenting such a one-sided argument, it's annoying and looks like you haven't looked at the situation properly.

Reply 7

OP

Annie354

The EU is ace!
Money well spent!

Stop presenting such a one-sided argument, it's annoying and looks like you haven't looked at the situation properly.

Well, from what youve written it looks like you havent looked at the situation AT ALL.

You havent come up with an argument full stop. NOt one point, just "money well spent"!

Reply 8

Annie354

14

mattbroon

Well, from what youve written it looks like you havent looked at the situation AT ALL.

You havent come up with an argument full stop. NOt one point, just "money well spent"!

You're the one proposing an argument, I just feel like criticising your approach.

Reply 9

SamTheMan

17

The main problem with the EU is not the fact it's good or bad. It's the lack of any curiosity or knowledge on behalf of the British public to actually know a bit about it. Why was the referendum able to go through the House of Commons? Because half of the British who claim to be anti-EU probably couldn't name half of the countries in it...

We shouldn't be questionning whether the EU should exist or not or whether we should be in it. Thatcher's no longer prime minister! Time to move on you Little Englanders. Things have changed since then. We should be asking ourselves what direction we want the EU to go, how important a role do we want for the UK in the EU? How much political integration and how much economic integration? What about further expansion? Reform of the political institutions. THOSE are the questions you should be asking.

The UK's economic ties are very much in the EU and it's only in the EU that the UK matters (we turned our back on the Commonwealth a long time ago...too late now) It's no longer a matter of wondering whether we should be in it.

Reply 10

OP

SamTheMan

The main problem with the EU is not the fact it's good or bad. It's the lack of any curiosity or knowledge on behalf of the British public to actually know a bit about it. Why was the referendum able to go through the House of Commons? Because half of the British who claim to be anti-EU probably couldn't name half of the countries in it...

We shouldn't be questionning whether the EU should exist or not or whether we should be in it. Thatcher's no longer prime minister! Time to move on you Little Englanders. Things have changed since then. We should be asking ourselves what direction we want the EU to go, how important a role do we want for the UK in the EU? How much political integration and how much economic integration? What about further expansion? Reform of the political institutions. THOSE are the questions you should be asking.

The UK's economic ties are very much in the EU and it's only in the EU that the UK matters (we turned our back on the Commonwealth a long time ago...too late now) It's no longer a matter of wondering whether we should be in it.

I couldn't disagree more. Look at the success of Switzerland, and it has done it all without any interference form the EU. Just within the past few weeks the EU has legislated that Britons must not work more than 48 hours a week, EVEN if they want to.

This amount of control is just ridiculous, and should not be decided in Brussels!

Reply 11

OP

Support the formation of TSR UKIP TODAY!

SEND YOUR SUPPORT TO daniel_williams , stating you support teh formation of TSR UKIP.

Thanks

Reply 12

Tintin and the Picaros

1

One of the main problems with the EU is the large amounts of money wasted by the inefficent CAP system. As 80% of the subsides got to 20% of the farmers, as well as it benefits the inefficent and gives no incentive for change.

Reply 13

PeterMcPete

1

The EU is bad, we have no control over immigration from other EU countries and it was illegal under EU law when Gordon Brown championed "British jobs for British people". That is truly pathetic.

Reply 14

Bmoody

Then again, Britons gained enforceable fundamental human rights for the first time. That is landmark.

Reply 15

SamTheMan

17

mattbroon

I couldn't disagree more. Look at the success of Switzerland, and it has done it all without any interference form the EU. Just within the past few weeks the EU has legislated that Britons must not work more than 48 hours a week, EVEN if they want to.

This amount of control is just ridiculous, and should not be decided in Brussels!

Yes it's Switzerland, that's the whole point :rolleyes:

To say rubbish like that is really not understanding how British economy and British trade actually function. We're economically integrated within Europe in a way that Switzerland isn't. Its industries are totally uncomparable and its trade balance has NOTHING to do with ours.

Typical, 48 hours...that's usually what people pick up on. What you should be worried about is that potentially there's legislation that could impact Britain a lot more than working hours but maybe the last Daily Mail article you read only mentioned that.

Reply 16

Lampshade