Teigan, what are your questions? If you post them again clearly, i'll be happy to answer them.

As for my self-respect comment, no i don't mean that only outspoken feminists have self-respect. However, when i see women pandering to a man's desires and being oblivious to it, then yes, i do think that self-respect is lacking.

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chaseside

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MNBStyle

Sexism isn't always intended to be insulting i should add.

Im a magician...sort of :P and everyone will know how most magicians usually have a very sexy eye catching assistant? Sexist to some yes? but trust me theres a reason there always so eye catching :wink:

You have an assistant? :s-smilie:

Reply 204

chaseside

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NDGAARONDI

What did the last one do to feminism then? That answers your question.

She did ok :s-smilie:

Reply 205

PhilMc

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einszweipolizei

Dude, that's far too late to even be in the running for the 'I'm the least imaginitive, most sexist joke-maker' award. Gutted.

Dude, n00bs don't decide.

Gutted.

Reply 206

200428

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Indievertigo

Sadly self-respect and feminism rarely coincide.

I agree with this, but only to a certain extent.
Feminism in the form of wanting men and women to be paid the same for doing the same job, or being angry when a woman is dismissed for being pregnant or not hired on the basis that she might become pregnant I think shows self respect - women wanting to be successful and not wanting undue obstacles to this.
However this extreme reactionary feminism - ugh. I don't understand why so many people seem so offended by men being attracted to attractive women :confused:

if anything, the portrayal of men is worse in that advert - the pervy guy who drips burger grease down his front, the businessman who is concentrating on girls rather than his job and makes a fool of himself dropping his phone - it's like "men are idiots, look how pathetic they are when confronted with pretty women" - I think that's worse than "oh look, these women take pride in their job and appearance, and they're quite nice"

Reply 207

Indievertigo

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einszweipolizei

We are two different sexes. Gender politics has everything to do with sex. I don't look down on women who have several partners; I look down on a society that makes them feel they must use their bodies to be loved and accepted.

Ah ok, but no doubt you would loathe a man who did that.
I on the other hand do look down on people who have several partners.

Reply 208

chaseside

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^^ both on ignore :P

No one quote them!

Reply 209

chaseside

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Indievertigo

Ah ok, but no doubt you would loathe a man who did that.
I on the other hand do look down on people who have several partners.

Both sexes who sleep around?

Reply 210

MNBStyle

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chaseside

You have an assistant? :s-smilie:

lol no i dont, the sort of magic or illusions i would do dont need one, but im sure you've seen it before on tv

Reply 211

dreiviergrenadier

And feminism does help reduce sexual assault. It helps to highlight the issue, and it lobbies the government to do something about it. It advices on education campaigns, on appropriate legal redresses, and it provides care for the victims.

It also helps to point out that our society is what causes this kind of behaviour. And then rational people can take note, and act accordingly.

Reply 212

Indievertigo

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chaseside

Both sexes who sleep around?

I said people for a reason :p:

Reply 213

Teigan

dreiviergrenadier

Teigan, what are your questions? If you post them again clearly, i'll be happy to answer them.

As for my self-respect comment, no i don't mean that only outspoken feminists have self-respect. However, when i see women pandering to a man's desires and being oblivious to it, then yes, i do think that self-respect is lacking.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16781349&postcount=167

And what about if the man's desires are her desires too? I like to look attractive and well groomed, and I would say a guy would like a girl to look attractive too. Am I lacking in self respect?

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einszweipolizei

Indievertigo

Ah ok, but no doubt you would loathe a man who did that.
I on the other hand do look down on people who have several partners.

I wouldn't loathe a man for doing it because I, unlike the vast majority of the British population, don't have double standards. I would prefer a society in which love was encouraged, rather than just masses of loveless sex.

Reply 215

Antonia87

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By CHRIST I am seriously worried by those of you who have analysed every shred of this advert and found offence in it. If you are THAT sensitive, how the hell are you going to go through life?

Reply 216

NDGAARONDI

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chaseside

She did ok :s-smilie:

Eh? I always felt Thatcher knocked back feminism tbh.

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chaseside

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Teigan

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16781349&postcount=167

And what about if the man's desires are her desires too? I like to look attractive and well groomed, and I would say a guy would like a girl to look attractive too. Am I lacking in self respect?

Arguing against obvious sexism in this advert i'd say yup

Reply 218

einszweipolizei

NDGAARONDI

Eh? I always felt Thatcher knocked back feminism tbh.

She did. She acted like a man in order to compete; that's not feminism. She's also convinced many voters that a female prime minister could only damage our country. I don't agree with her politics. However, gotta love The Lady's Not For Turning.