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PGCE Special needs

Hi:smile:,

I'm a student studying BA (Hons) Learning Disabilities Studies. I'm interested in going into teaching for special needs after this. I've heard of a PGCE in special needs, but I can't find much about this, does anyone know about this?
The only one I could find on the GTTR website was one at Manchester Metropolitan University - Secondary English and Special Needs
Reply 2
Thx:smile:, but I've found one for primary, but there just isn't much information about it, and I'm not sure if I can go straight into teaching for special needs after doing this type of PGCE, as I have only been told of the long route of where you need to work in a mainstream school first for at least 2-3 years, and then go into special schools after that. After having some experience of working in a mainstream school, however, that seems like a long way to go, so I was looking for a quicker route and when I found a PGCE that works with special needs I wanted to know more about it, hoping I could start teaching in special schools straight away, but there isn’t enough evidence so I was wondering if any1 knew more about this. And when coming across my search I found this forum, so I thought I’d ask around, starting from this here, as I’m new to this too:smile:.
Reply 3
xKTx
The only one I could find on the GTTR website was one at Manchester Metropolitan University - Secondary English and Special Needs


Thx:smile:, but I've found one for primary, but there just isn't much information about it, and I'm not sure if I can go straight into teaching for special needs after doing this type of PGCE, as I have only been told of the long route of where you need to work in a mainstream school first for at least 2-3 years, and then go into special schools after that. After having some experience of working in a mainstream school, however, that seems like a long way to go, so I was looking for a quicker route and when I found a PGCE that works with special needs I wanted to know more about it, hoping I could start teaching in special schools straight away, but there isn’t enough evidence so I was wondering if any1 knew more about this. And when coming across my search I found this forum, so I thought I’d ask around, starting from this here, as I’m new to this too:smile:.
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Hey, I was thinking of doing this a while ago, although there aren't really any specialised pgce courses for special needs (not that I know of anyway) Some might be Primary PGCE special needs specialism etc but im not sure. I did some work experience at a special needs school and apparently you can just do a normal pgce to become a special needs teacher anyway. You then have the option to teach in 'normal' schools too then.
xhelen1989x
Hey, I was thinking of doing this a while ago, although there aren't really any specialised pgce courses for special needs (not that I know of anyway) Some might be Primary PGCE special needs specialism etc but im not sure. I did some work experience at a special needs school and apparently you can just do a normal pgce to become a special needs teacher anyway. You then have the option to teach in 'normal' schools too then.


It might be a good idea to get some experience working with SEN pupils first though.
Powersymphonia
It might be a good idea to get some experience working with SEN pupils first though.


Yeah, i'd definately say that! You don't know if you you handle that environment until youve tried it :smile:
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xhelen1989x
Yeah, i'd definately say that! You don't know if you you handle that environment until youve tried it :smile:


Thx guys:smile:, your right, experience is a must, but I’ve worked in both special and mainstream schools. I seem to prefer the special school more and that’s why I’m so stuck now. Cz I really want to teach in special schools asap, but I can't seem to find a quick route, all routes indicate teaching in mainstream first and then heading to specials after a few years. With this sen pgce I thought it might be quicker to teach in special schools, but I don’t think it is. I just can’t seem to find enough information about it:frown:. Whether it takes you into special school teaching straight away, or you still need to work in mainstream school even after doing the sen pgce.
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arouj
Hi:smile:,

I'm a student studying BA (Hons) Learning Disabilities Studies. I'm interested in going into teaching for special needs after this. I've heard of a PGCE in special needs, but I can't find much about this, does anyone know about this?


Hiya,

There is no right or wrong answer here since it all depends on the preference of the head teacher. I know NQTs working in special schools for SLD/PMLD kids, I know somebody training to be a teacher in a special school for people with physical disabilities (though all have learning disabilities, from moderate to severe). At the same time, I know a head teacher in an SLD/PMLD school who advises that applicants have at least 2-3 years mainstream experience, with additional SEN experience. Some only employ experienced special school teachers.

So yeah, it all depends on the school - there is no "fast track" since special school teaching has long been neglected in teacher training (whereas in the 1980s SEN PGCEs/Cert Eds were around).

The best think you could do, as mentioned, is (1) get some experience(whcih you say you have), and (2) read job adverts for SEN schools. I've seen some places wanting any willing teachers (i.e in East London), where there may be a shortage of willing candidates. If you are prepared to subscribe to something, like TES jobs,and move where ever when you get your PGCE, then being an NQT won't be a problem. I've seen jobs advertised in Devon that will allow NQTs apply, even though Devon is sooooo difficult to find a job for because they have an abundance of teacher training colleges/departments, and very few jobs since people don't want to move.

Don't get me wrong, it's not an easy thing to get into as an NQT, but it can and does happen. Just look out for the job and keep improving your CV.

Hope this helps.
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The Boosh
Hiya,

There is no right or wrong answer here since it all depends on the preference of the head teacher. I know NQTs working in special schools for SLD/PMLD kids, I know somebody training to be a teacher in a special school for people with physical disabilities (though all have learning disabilities, from moderate to severe). At the same time, I know a head teacher in an SLD/PMLD school who advises that applicants have at least 2-3 years mainstream experience, with additional SEN experience. Some only employ experienced special school teachers.

So yeah, it all depends on the school - there is no "fast track" since special school teaching has long been neglected in teacher training (whereas in the 1980s SEN PGCEs/Cert Eds were around).

The best think you could do, as mentioned, is (1) get some experience(whcih you say you have), and (2) read job adverts for SEN schools. I've seen some places wanting any willing teachers (i.e in East London), where there may be a shortage of willing candidates. If you are prepared to subscribe to something, like TES jobs,and move where ever when you get your PGCE, then being an NQT won't be a problem. I've seen jobs advertised in Devon that will allow NQTs apply, even though Devon is sooooo difficult to find a job for because they have an abundance of teacher training colleges/departments, and very few jobs since people don't want to move.

Don't get me wrong, it's not an easy thing to get into as an NQT, but it can and does happen. Just look out for the job and keep improving your CV.

Hope this helps.



Hi, thanks for your advice. It’s taken me a while to reply, but I was trying to get as much as information as I could, and I've just spoken to the Head Teacher at the Special School where I worked previously and He also gave similar advice. So really it’s not a case of where I need 2-3 years experience, it’s about finding the right school. He also spoke about looking into Graduate Teaching Programmes, which seems like a good idea too. Again He said there’s no PGCE for Special Needs in particular, but from what He was saying it seems possible to work in a Special School with any PGCE, yet I am still trying to find out as much as I can about this Special Needs PGCE as I now know some universities that do this course :smile:
arouj
Hi, thanks for your advice. It’s taken me a while to reply, but I was trying to get as much as information as I could, and I've just spoken to the Head Teacher at the Special School where I worked previously and He also gave similar advice. So really it’s not a case of where I need 2-3 years experience, it’s about finding the right school. He also spoke about looking into Graduate Teaching Programmes, which seems like a good idea too. Again He said there’s no PGCE for Special Needs in particular, but from what He was saying it seems possible to work in a Special School with any PGCE, yet I am still trying to find out as much as I can about this Special Needs PGCE as I now know some universities that do this course :smile:


Well it sounds like you have a plan and at least a basic knowledge of how the system works, so best of luck with it all.
I also have been looking for the same thing for ages, you really think they would have one for it wouldnt you?
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Beatrix Potter
I also have been looking for the same thing for ages, you really think they would have one for it wouldnt you?



Yeah, however there are lots of Masters in Special needs, just not PGCE's. I don't really know why that is.
The bridge in islington does sen pgce but doesn't count as qts
Reply 16
try uel for pgce special needs
Original post by markingreenwich
The bridge in islington does sen pgce but doesn't count as qts


They do school direct too which is QTS.


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