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Why do people believe all private schools are amazing?

Am I right to believe that in private schools people don't get mugged and lessons go by without people jumping on tables and threatening to beat up teachers?

Reply 21

TheMeister

15

Because people on here are too ignorant to admit that intelligence rests with individuals themselves, and not where they attend. State comprehensives get a terrible name on here, but I've found some (really!) outstanding teachers in my time whilst going to one and I've already achieved 3 A*s and an A in my Year 10 exams - so it can't all be that bad.

If anything I find that state schools better define an individual than private schools due to the fact that midway through you have the social choice to refuse your education or continue with it and to proceed onwards with further education in college/sixth form and then, of course, university - if they choose the right path it's because they want to and not because their parents believe they should because they can pay for it.

Not all state schools have a criminal undercurrent as those on here would have you believe, mine hasn't had a single incident for about two years, and the only time emergency services have been called was when some poor chap slipped on the wet concrete and his eye come out of the socket. :sad:

Reply 22

MichaelG

12

i've always personally believed its down the individual to work and motivate themselves. the schools themselves play a minimal role; at the end of the day its down to you.

Reply 23

KimKallstrom

14

Having said that I'm so glad I went to a comprehensive.Big mix of people,football instead of egg ball and a great non-academic education!

Reply 24

Pink Liquid

12

KimKallstrom

Am I right to believe that in private schools people don't get mugged and lessons go by without people jumping on tables and threatening to beat up teachers?

Well, you're right if relating it to the one I went to. However, students seem to be loud-mouthed and say what they like, when they like at the top of their voices...teachers don't even tell them to be quiet. It's disruptive, but these students think they are entitled to do that. After all, they come before any one else, and if teacher tells them off...then parents will be complaining as they pay a school fee. 'Why did you tell my child off...she/he only did this...we pay good money for this place...blah blah blah'

Reply 25

Pink Liquid

12

TheMeister

intelligence rests with individuals themselves, and not where they attend. State comprehensives get a terrible name on here, but I've found some (really!) outstanding teachers in my time

state schools better define an individual than private schools

poor chap slipped on the wet concrete and his eye come out of the socket. :sad:

I agree...although I'm sure some others may not, but each to their own. Also, I feel for that boy :o:

Reply 26

jacketpotato

20

MichaelG

i've always personally believed its down the individual to work and motivate themselves. the schools themselves play a minimal role; at the end of the day its down to you.

Then how do you explain the massive discrepancy in exam results, university entrance statistics and extra-curricular involvement?

Pink Liquid

Well, you're right if relating it to the one I went to. However, students seem to be loud-mouthed and say what they like, when they like at the top of their voices...teachers don't even tell them to be quiet. It's disruptive, but these students think they are entitled to do that. After all, they come before any one else, and if teacher tells them off...then parents will be complaining as they pay a school fee. 'Why did you tell my child off...she/he only did this...we pay good money for this place...blah blah blah'

Its pretty much the opposite. Parents who are prepared to pay big bucks to send their child to a particular school obviously care deeply about their child's education. My experience of private education was that it was extremely disciplined: parents were very supportive of detentions and the like - saying "do some work or I'll call your parents" was pretty much treated as a unbelievably harsh sanction.
Moreover, it is very much the state influence that curtails teachers. In the private sector schools and teachers have a bit more freedom.

Reply 27

Pink Liquid

12

jacketpotato

Its pretty much the opposite. Parents who are prepared to pay big bucks to send their child to a particular school obviously care deeply about their child's education.

Maybe they could just afford it?
I'm not sure which school most others in this thread went to, so I can't generalise. However, the one I went to did not place much emphasis on academic achievement...it was just a school that charged fees for those who could afford it.
If parents were deeply concerned about their child's education, they wouldn't be pulling them out during term time to go Barbados/Spain/Carribean/Skiing etc.?? One student didn't even turn up for a year because the parents bought a villa in spain or somewhere, but carried on paying school fees. She just wasn't entered in for the exams (as she had not attended lessons to learn anything).
Anyway, it is hard to say as each school is different...I just recommend people to pick within the Top 50, they've reached that position for a reason.

Reply 28

jacketpotato

20

Pink Liquid

Maybe they could just afford it?
I'm not sure which school most others in this thread went to, so I can't generalise. However, the one I went to did not place much emphasis on academic achievement...it was just a school that charged fees for those who could afford it.
If parents were deeply concerned about their child's education, they wouldn't be pulling them out during term time to go Barbados/Spain/Carribean/Skiing etc.?? One student didn't even turn up for a year because the parents bought a villa in spain or somewhere, but carried on paying school fees. She just wasn't entered in for the exams (as she had not attended lessons to learn anything).
Anyway, it is hard to say as each school is different...I just recommend people to pick within the Top 50, they've reached that position for a reason.

Just because they can "afford it" isn't a good reason to spend tens of thousands of pounds. Unless you are quite literally a billionaire, its still a lot of money whether you can afford it or not. If there are equally good state schools nearby that kids manage to get into, noone is going to pay £3000+ a term to send their kid to private school. Though I don't deny that there are probably a small number of exceptions!

Like you say, it depends on the individual school. Often, a nearby private school is the best school for providing academic and extra-curricular opportunities. But some kids will be better off in the local state school. Perhaps the nearest grammar is a science specialist college and your child loves science. Its about finding the right school for the right child.

Reply 29

E_D_B

9

Some private schools are crap, but some are pretty damn good. My school gets 35% to Oxbridge and Westminster gets like 60% - I'm pretty sure there are no state schools which do anywhere near so well. Overall, if you take grades and university entrance as the main criteria, private is a lot better.

Reply 30

TableChair

1

JMonkey

Probably because compared to comprehensives they are amazing.

There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

Mark Twain.

Mind you we have to include religious schools as private and so they are really nothing more than comprehensive with a deity as headmaster. :smile:

It was Disraeli who said that.

Reply 31

ijustlovetolearn

1

Money cant buy intelligence and I think with private schools you're largely just paying for faclities. Unless its really academically selective you wont get the best pupils going there, so it follows you wont get the best results. I havent paid a penny for my education and have got much better results that lots of private school friends.

Reply 32

Edenr

14

Because they're private; the clue is in the name.

Reply 33

MichaelG

12

jacketpotato

Then how do you explain the massive discrepancy in exam results, university entrance statistics and extra-curricular involvement?

I just did. individual effort, individual motivation, individual interest. University should be a tough place to get into - it should be down to your individual attainment, regardless of your educational background.

I have been at what would be deemed 'state' or 'public' schools all my life and its always the same situation; the kids that want to do well, do well. The kids who couldn't give a flying monkeys, 9 times out of 10 don't do well. Students often find comfort in blaming teachers for their failures. Boys in particular often blame poor results on bad luck - that doesn't mean that they are right.

As with extra curricular activities, it depends on what is offered - its not an indicator of anything. I'd need to see statistics on the relations between 'deprived' schools and 'affluent' schools and extra curricular involvement before making any sort of analysis. Funded correctly; any school can offer a wide range of extra curricular activities. I personally feel you are nit picking at the overall system - the number of schools in absolute financial and social deprivation are near non existent.

'Massive' discrepancy in exam results (again i'd like to see a variety of reliable sources on that statement) can be interpreted in very different ways. You could very easily blame it on purely funding levels, or you could blame the individuals taking the exams, or the teachers themselves. There isn't a singular causation - but to blame varying levels of results on 'private' schools alone is simply wildly inaccurate.

The point i'm getting at is that pumping money into schools is no different from throwing money into wells. Its how you spend the money, not how much an establishment receives..

Reply 34

whitepearlbaby

18

Damn, I read "pirate schools" :frown:

Now THAT would have been amazing!

Reply 35

forsaken_earth

13

Of course. However the best secondary schools are independent, and that's unsurprising - money is everything.

That doesn't mean of course that one can't do well at (almost) any school, and that teaching must be crap if your school isn't topping the league tables. Some of the best teachers reside in very very unacademic environments.

Reply 36

SnowAngel

2

I suppose it's because you have to pay...so they assume it must be great..

Reply 37

tsr4life

2

why would you go to a private school if the average grades are as bad as those of state schools\??

i go to a private school and it is a lot better than any state school..

Reply 38

JMonkey

3

This is the reason private schools are amazing.

Two weeks later I tried to get out dressed as a woman but I was caught by the Spanish master.

notice board

The following boys have been shot:

T.Peterson
C.Matthews
A.Archibald
N.Adams
T.Roe

The day always started in the same way at 3:30am we were woken by Alsations and after two games of football we were given the lash.

Because I was new, fighting the school bear was compulsory.

I was 17 miles from Graybridge when I was caught by the school leopard.

And there was St Tadgers day where by an old tradition boys that had been to school for less than two years were allowed to be nailed to the walls.

In the third week I had an amazing stroke of luck, I was shot in the stomach while doing French vocab and sent to the infirmary.

:rofl:

Reply 39

nolongerhearthemusic

13

I think it's quite obvious why someone would believe that. They assume that if people are willing to pay, it's better than the free alternative. Not that hard to understand, and not worth getting annoyed about.

Why do people believe all private schools are amazing?

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