Christian terrorism: Doctor assassinated in church

An abortion doctor, George Tiller, was shot dead while in church. What do you make of this example of Christian terrorism? Do you think the conservative media - in particular I'm thinking of Bill O'Reilly - may have had a role to play in his death?

Reply 1

Democracy

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Well like I said in the GD thread, I think it's disgraceful that self proclaimed "Christians" are murdering a guy who was doing his job. Other than that's there's not much to say except I hope the person(s) responsible are caught and jailed, cause that's what they deserve.

I wonder if the US media will refer to it as an act of terrorism though...

Reply 2

alan910_2

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It's disgusting how deluded these people are. But unfortunately their anti-abortion, anti-contraception ways only add to their kind. Not to mention the utterly immoral brainwashing of their children. This stuff worries me greatly...

Reply 3

34253

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I don't see his murder as any different to the murders he carried out every single day at his clinic, I mean he specialised in late term abortions for goodness sake. I don't think his murder was right none the less.

Reply 4

Dirac Delta Function

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Elipsis

I don't see his murder as any different to the murders he carried out every single day at his clinic, I mean he specialised in late term abortions for goodness sake. I don't think his murder was right none the less.

A late term abortion, of sorts...

Reply 5

Gaishan

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'Christian terrorism' is certainly an apt description of it.

Fortunately this phenomenon is relatively rare and largely found in certain parts of the US.

I don't think it's right to blame the 'conservative media'. It's a legitimate view to disagree with abortion and the conservative media do not advocate violence.

The blame is more likely to be found in certain extremist groups. I've seen some of the very graphic and intense anti-abortionist literature and campaigning.

Reply 6

Lilio Candidior

How utterly horrid when lifes are taken in the name of the sanctity of life. I'm almost getting physically sick at such a twisted act.

Reply 7

Gaishan

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Elipsis

I don't see his murder as any different to the murders he carried out every single day at his clinic, I mean he specialised in late term abortions for goodness sake. I don't think his murder was right none the less.

Murder is a legal term though? The doctor committed no murders. Arguably he killed human beings.

Isn't every egg and sperm a potential life though? There is a qualitative difference between the death of an unborn child and a person isn't there?

Do you regard someone who uses a morning after pill, which can work in the following way (as well as stopping the release of an egg) -

"altering the lining of the womb, so a fertilised egg can't embed itself there. "

As possibly having committed murder?

Reply 8

adamdivine

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My heart bleeds. Seriously though, that must be the most soul-destroying line of work on the planet. How can you sleep at night if you do that job

Reply 9

adamdivine

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Gaishan

Murder is a legal term though? The doctor committed no murders. Arguably he killed human beings.

Isn't every egg and sperm a potential life though? There is a qualitative difference between the death of an unborn child and a person isn't there?

Do you regard someone who uses a morning after pill, which can work in the following way (as well as stopping the release of an egg) -

"altering the lining of the womb, so a fertilised egg can't embed itself there. "

As possibly having committed murder?

An egg and a sperm aren't a foetus though. Simple biology

Reply 10

Christian_j

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Can a mod merge this with the other thread? :p:

Reply 11

marlowe92

This is bloody embarrassing for America.

Reply 12

Gaishan

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adamdivine

An egg and a sperm aren't a foetus though. Simple biology

That's true - but they are potential lives. Let's see what the Elipsis says.

Reply 13

numb3rb0y

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How someone can be "pro-life" and go around executing people is beyond me.

I wish the media would refer to them as the fundamentalist terrorists that they are.

Reply 14

markdr

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Immediately sprung to mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAQy8v0d_qo
From 1997. So prophetic.

Reply 15

adamdivine

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Have you seen this guys face. He looks like a deformed foetus. Hes going to hell!..... Sadly*

*This word may have been said in sarcastic jest.

Reply 16

34253

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Gaishan

Murder is a legal term though? The doctor committed no murders. Arguably he killed human beings.

Isn't every egg and sperm a potential life though? There is a qualitative difference between the death of an unborn child and a person isn't there?

Do you regard someone who uses a morning after pill, which can work in the following way (as well as stopping the release of an egg) -

"altering the lining of the womb, so a fertilised egg can't embed itself there. "

As possibly having committed murder?

There is a difference between stopping the egg the sperm ever begining the process and stopping the process once you've started it. Murder is not only a legal term but also a descriptive of killing someone, and it fits him perfectly.

Reply 17

UGeNe

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Jesus would have done it, too!

Reply 18

Kolya

OP

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Bismarck

What? O'Reilly doesn't even care that much about abortion...

Tiller has been (unflatteringly) mentioned at least a couple of times on O'Reilly's show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYulgba5BPE (talk with a pro-choice feminist)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZDZiftp6EI (talk with 14-year old girl who had an abortion)

I am not saying that it had a direct effect in this case; I am asking whether villification of an individual like that, over such a heated issue, was a sensible idea (and may have increased the likelihood of such an assassination happening).