TSR Guitar Society

Original post by Tobia_s

Brilliant effort mate. Sounds almost like the original except for the obvious tweaks here and there :yes:

ah i've got a lot of work to do i reckon. Let's see how it goes :redface:

just stalked your soundcloud page too :colondollar:

decent stuff you got on there i must say. How long you been playing for?

I actually think my guitar was out of tune slightly too -- I think the D string sounds a little bit off. Ah well. It's a great song for practising your bends and vibrato too.

Cheers! Some very rough stuff up there too: sometimes if I learn something I'll just record it and throw it up there to listen to later. Been playing for about four years, but only properly and seriously for the past two; before then I'd maybe pick up a guitar once a week or something.

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Original post by GingerGoat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-E1SaDrHJQ&ob=av3e

Cba getting the nice embedded link to work :tongue:

****ing amazing :heart:

the guitar was a bit painful though

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Manitude

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Original post by JordanR

I actually think my guitar was out of tune slightly too -- I think the D string sounds a little bit off. Ah well. It's a great song for practising your bends and vibrato too.

Cheers! Some very rough stuff up there too: sometimes if I learn something I'll just record it and throw it up there to listen to later. Been playing for about four years, but only properly and seriously for the past two; before then I'd maybe pick up a guitar once a week or something.

My god....I've been playing for about ten years now, and you are considerably better than me.

*goes in a corner and weeps*

I do play fairly often, but I don't really challenge myself to learn anything just beyond my comfort zone, so my ability stagnates.

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Original post by JordanR

I actually think my guitar was out of tune slightly too -- I think the D string sounds a little bit off. Ah well. It's a great song for practising your bends and vibrato too.

Cheers! Some very rough stuff up there too: sometimes if I learn something I'll just record it and throw it up there to listen to later. Been playing for about four years, but only properly and seriously for the past two; before then I'd maybe pick up a guitar once a week or something.

Oh stop it you; it was awesome. Tone-wise too. What pickups are in the LP? Or what amp and/or effects set-up did you use?

I've become quite accustomed to economy picking and using PG's 'outside' picking style feels very weird. Err I don't know how to explain but it just does :colondollar:

and it feels like the style is marginally slower than economy picking. Is it too soon to judge after spending just a few hours on PG's style?

Also gonna go up a string guage; to "challenge" my fingers :colone:

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Original post by Manitude

My god....I've been playing for about ten years now, and you are considerably better than me.

*goes in a corner and weeps*

I do play fairly often, but I don't really challenge myself to learn anything just beyond my comfort zone, so my ability stagnates.

My ability stayed pretty static for a while, until I actively tried to learn things that I couldn't play. If I ever feel like I'm a good guitar player I try and learn something incredibly difficult to shut my ego up. :tongue:

Original post by Tobia_s

Oh stop it you; it was awesome. Tone-wise too. What pickups are in the LP? Or what amp and/or effects set-up did you use?

I've become quite accustomed to economy picking and using PG's 'outside' picking style feels very weird. Err I don't know how to explain but it just does :colondollar:

and it feels like the style is marginally slower than economy picking. Is it too soon to judge after spending just a few hours on PG's style?

Also gonna go up a string guage; to "challenge" my fingers :colone:

No idea about the pickups, it's an old (1974) Japanese-made Les Paul that I bought for £75 locally. Great guitar, though. Recorded it using Amplitube 3 software. Was using 0.6mm Tortex picks (the orange ones!).

Well, I'm the wrong person to ask since any sort of economy picking completely blows my mind. :tongue:

I think saying that PG's picking style is a bit slower than economy picking is pretty... unfair too, considering PG's probably known mostly for his insane picking. I think they're just as fast as one another, but you get a much different sound from them. Alternate/outside picking gives you the staccato sound that I like.

Really, though, I can't economy pick for crap. Or sweep for crap. Anything more than four strings = not good (although I can do an ascending 5 string sweep fairly well). Here is Castle Dragon on my new (and better suited!) guitar. :smile:

I like heavier strings, generally. I'm using Hybrid Slinky strings on my 25.5" scale length guitar just now. I think heavier, tighter strings help with your picking, but I didn't play for a bit and my finger calluses went down so I couldn't go for straight Slinky strings. :frown:

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Original post by JordanR

No idea about the pickups, it's an old (1974) Japanese-made Les Paul that I bought for £75 locally. Great guitar, though. Recorded it using Amplitube 3 software. Was using 0.6mm Tortex picks (the orange ones!).

Well, I'm the wrong person to ask since any sort of economy picking completely blows my mind. :tongue:

I think saying that PG's picking style is a bit slower than economy picking is pretty... unfair too, considering PG's probably known mostly for his insane picking. I think they're just as fast as one another, but you get a much different sound from them. Alternate/outside picking gives you the staccato sound that I like.

Really, though, I can't economy pick for crap. Or sweep for crap. Anything more than four strings = not good (although I can do an ascending 5 string sweep fairly well). Here is Castle Dragon on my new (and better suited!) guitar. :smile:

I like heavier strings, generally. I'm using Hybrid Slinky strings on my 25.5" scale length guitar just now. I think heavier, tighter strings help with your picking, but I didn't play for a bit and my finger calluses went down so I couldn't go for straight Slinky strings. :frown:

those tortex picks are way too thin (for me I reckon). I use Jazz III XLs :cool:

1.38 mm i believe. Used the purple tortex ones previously (bou 1.14 mm I believe) but they got blunt-ish too quickly and the pointy bit seemed to strike strings weirdly in my hands.

Oh you use Ernie Ball's? Best strings ever :wink:

going from regular slinky up to the power slinky (purple ones; 11-48).

Re-stringing this particular guitar for the first time ever, using this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sAQcAlAeKU&context=C400aceaADvjVQa1PpcFNxkKmYKqKNYPdh2jGJ0LHqwr9DbZY6LcI=
Wish me luck hehe. Hopefully don't damage something; with my non-existent experience with re-stringing guitars :redface:

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Original post by Tobia_s

those tortex picks are way too thin (for me I reckon). I use Jazz III XLs :cool:

1.38 mm i believe. Used the purple tortex ones previously (bou 1.14 mm I believe) but they got blunt-ish too quickly and the pointy bit seemed to strike strings weirdly in my hands.

Oh you use Ernie Ball's? Best strings ever :wink:

going from regular slinky up to the power slinky (purple ones; 11-48).

Re-stringing this particular guitar for the first time ever, using this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sAQcAlAeKU&context=C400aceaADvjVQa1PpcFNxkKmYKqKNYPdh2jGJ0LHqwr9DbZY6LcI=
Wish me luck hehe. Hopefully don't damage something; with my non-existent experience with re-stringing guitars :redface:

That's what every guitar player says. :frown:

Been using these for ages now, much preferable to anything else. I practice with thick picks sometimes though.

Oh, and I did a bit of thinking for you. If you wanted to get your speed/picking up, there are a ton of Gilbert licks and patterns that'd be suitable for it that I can give you tabs for/make recordings of if you're interested. Some riffs in Norwegian Cowbell and The Gargoyle especially. If you're not familiar with string skipped arpeggios, it'd be a good time to start too. :tongue:

Good luck on changing strings. It's not so bad really.

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Original post by JordanR

That's what every guitar player says. :frown:

Been using these for ages now, much preferable to anything else. I practice with thick picks sometimes though.

Oh, and I did a bit of thinking for you. If you wanted to get your speed/picking up, there are a ton of Gilbert licks and patterns that'd be suitable for it that I can give you tabs for/make recordings of if you're interested. Some riffs in Norwegian Cowbell and The Gargoyle especially. If you're not familiar with string skipped arpeggios, it'd be a good time to start too. :tongue:

Good luck on changing strings. It's not so bad really.

Fair enough. Now wondering how you managed to play metallica songs with those picks? :colone:

If it's not too much trouble I'd appreciate that thanks :smile:

in your own time of course :biggrin:

Err when you've got a solid-body guitar with the normal "stopbar/tailpiece" bridge; it's alright if you take all the old strings off first (in case you want to wipe down body/fretboard) right? I'm being told that you should change the strings one at a time to "maintain tension" but I thought I'd remedy this by loosening all strings way down before snipping them and that since i'm going up a gauge, might tweak the truss rod a bit after i'm done. Procedure logic all good?

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Original post by Tobia_s

Fair enough. Now wondering how you managed to play metallica songs with those picks? :colone:

If it's not too much trouble I'd appreciate that thanks :smile:

in your own time of course :biggrin:

Err when you've got a solid-body guitar with the normal "stopbar/tailpiece" bridge; it's alright if you take all the old strings off first (in case you want to wipe down body/fretboard) right? I'm being told that you should change the strings one at a time to "maintain tension" but I thought I'd remedy this by loosening all strings way down before snipping them and that since i'm going up a gauge, might tweak the truss rod a bit after i'm done. Procedure logic all good?

I pick at a 45 degree angle to the string, so thickness doesn't matter too much. Gives a lovely "brushy" sound too.

That thing is essentially a myth -- I've never had problems with it and have left strings off necks for months at a time. Sure, a bit of truss rod adjustment is needed but that's no biggie. I always take all my strings off so I can clean my fretboard too (although now I have really tall frets it doesn't matter so much). And yes, sounds good. Make sure you adjust the truss rod in tiny increments though.

I'll make the recordings and stuff tomorrow -- need to remind myself of some of the licks!

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Original post by JordanR

I pick at a 45 degree angle to the string, so thickness doesn't matter too much. Gives a lovely "brushy" sound too.

That thing is essentially a myth -- I've never had problems with it and have left strings off necks for months at a time. Sure, a bit of truss rod adjustment is needed but that's no biggie. I always take all my strings off so I can clean my fretboard too (although now I have really tall frets it doesn't matter so much). And yes, sounds good. Make sure you adjust the truss rod in tiny increments though.

I'll make the recordings and stuff tomorrow -- need to remind myself of some of the licks!

Hmm does picking angle have any input whatsoever on picking speed?

Thanks a lot mate. Much, much appreciated :biggrin:

THE GARGOYLE!?!?!?!?!?!?! :lolwut:

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Original post by Tobia_s

Hmm does picking angle have any input whatsoever on picking speed?

Thanks a lot mate. Much, much appreciated :biggrin:

THE GARGOYLE!?!?!?!?!?!?! :lolwut:

Quite possibly. Experiment. I found this on my soundcloud which has some handy picking things in it. Think they're just taken from PG lessons somewhere. Will tab them too. Either way, picking at a 45 degree angle certainly can't hurt. :wink:

THE GARGOYLE! Really fun song to play, lots of cool techniques (even my enemy -- sweeping!). Nice arpeggio run.

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Jake22

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Original post by Tobia_s

Hmm does picking angle have any input whatsoever on picking speed?

Not a great deal but most people find a 30-45 degree angle more comfortable.

The resultant scratchy sound that many people find is often more due to poor attack then the angle of the pick. If you get control over the attack then you can control the amount of scratch you get.

I think one of the most underrated aspect of pick technique that helps speed but more important clarity and note quality is the rest stroke/planting. Using this technique together with a 'bouncing' motion in the right hand allows you to get the clearest tone. It seems that when people try to pick fast they forget that one generally plucks strings rather than pushes them. Try and watch Eric Johnson on youtube to get an idea of what I mean by bouncing - he does it pretty prominently so you can almost see it. I think Rick Graham has a video on youtube where he talks about planting too.

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Dangermoose

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What good but challenging songs can I learn which have some nice riffs in them? Thanks

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Original post by Dangermoose

What good but challenging songs can I learn which have some nice riffs in them? Thanks

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JackG1

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A guitar thread! Cool beans!

I play a mexican standard straaaaaatocaster! Tobacco sunburst, white scratchplate with a rosewood neck. Basically Frusciante's style of strat, I really love it.

Other guitarist in my band plays a really nice baja custom shop telecaster, that has a switch that allows it to change sound to sounding more like a strat. Mustard yellow with a black scratchplate and maple neck.

Here's our demo: http://soundcloud.com/depardoo/sets/depardoo/
:biggrin:

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Original post by Dangermoose

What good but challenging songs can I learn which have some nice riffs in them? Thanks

Paul Gilbert or Racer X stuff sounds perfect.

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Original post by JordanR

Paul Gilbert or Racer X stuff sounds perfect.

"Challenging" is a major understatement mate :colone:

Well for me I suppose. Btw; completely obsessed with 'the gargoyle' now thanks to you (must've replayed it over the legal limit haha). No rest till I get a good bit of it down. First 5-20 seconds looks promising right this moment :cool:

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